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It amazes me people freak out about GMOs and the material Starbucks cups are made out of yet will breathe vaporized chemicals of who knows what sorts directly i

It amazes me people freak out about GMOs and the material Starbucks cups are made out of yet will breathe vaporized chemicals of who knows what sorts directly into their lungs. Mind boggling.

newnewpdro 7y ago
Why are you assuming it's the same people? It's not like a majority of the population vapes... while it seems to be at least somewhat popular, it's still very much the minority I see vaping.
- rkeniger 7y ago
  Apparently 20% of US high school students vape.
  - newnewpdro 7y ago
    Which is a minority, of an already small subset of the population.
MegaButts 7y ago
That's because you can opt out of the former. "No, I won't buy from Starbucks because of their cups. No, I won't eat that because it has GMOs." It's a lot harder to make that commitment when it's the air you breathe - you either have to wear a mask all the time or move away and live in the wilderness.
- plugger 7y ago
  wut? the conversation is about vaping. your comment makes no sense.
- DuskStar 7y ago
  Oooor you can choose not to vaporize things to inhale? This isn't in normal air, it's specifically from vaping
  - goatinaboat 7y ago
    No you can’t if someone is vaping near you. In fact it’s worse, since vapids make a point of blowing as much “smoke” as they can to make sure everyone sees them.
  - topmonk 7y ago
    When you buy a cup from Starbucks you typically are only buying a single dose. If you buy a vape cartridge, you have dozens of doses. It's much harder to throw the latter away than the former. Suppose someone bought a car, and found out that the car vents were spewing somewhat toxic that has a slight chance to kill them. If they needed to go to work in it to put food on the table, can you see how someone might say they had no choice but to use it? Now take that logic and apply it to a vape cartridge. Say someone bought that cartridge which carries so many doses, along with paying the cost of the physical vape machine and the cost of electrically charging the machine, and spent the necessary time and emotional cost to wait for the machine to do so. Then they find it out it may be toxic. Is it really a realistic choice to take the financial and emotional burden of throwing away the cartridge, if it provides a needed soothing relief to their mind?
    - copperx 7y ago
      > Suppose someone bought a car, and found out that the car vents were spewing somewhat toxic that has a slight chance to kill them. If they needed to go to work in it to put food on the table, can you see how someone might say they had no choice but to use it? It's funny to read this here because that's exactly what happened to me. I was driving a diesel car with a damaged firewall, which meant carcinogenic diesel exhaust fumes came through the floor and vents. I had absolutely no budget for a car, as I was paying for expensive medical insurance and bills. I had no choice but to drive it with the windows down. My clothes would smell of diesel after driving. I took it multiple times to the dealership until they found the problem, and they said it would be more costly to repair it than to buy a new car. Fortunately, I eventually bought a new car. But I still might get lung cancer in the future.
cobbzilla 7y ago
Reminds me of the old joke about the guy at the fast-food joint: I’ll have a double bacon cheeseburger, a large fries, and a diet coke. Like — why are you buying this totally unhealthy meal and then getting a diet coke? Who are you kidding? Yet — I’ve been that guy. So it’s not so mind boggling.
- exDM69 7y ago
  Some groups like T1 diabetics can not have the amount of sugar in "normal" fizzy drinks. That amount of sugar can cause issues from nausea to messed up glucose levels needing hospitalization. Hamburgers and fries are not a problem (not healthy but not dangerous). "Diet Coke" is just a stupid name for sugar free drinks.
  - copperx 7y ago
    Other advantages: no need to brush you teeth immediately after drinking soda to prevent cavities, lighter mouth feel, safer in a car (if you spill the drink there's no sticky residue), T2 diabetes risk reduction vs drinking regular soda, no added insulin response, and if you drink a lot of liquids you can have a few refills without thinking about calories.
    - skohan 7y ago
      You get all those benefits from water also. Artificial sweeteners also increase appetite and cravings for sweet food, so if you are suffering food-related illness, it's better to stay away from them as well.
  - skocznymroczny 7y ago
    Is that actually true? Bread contains very high carbohydrate levels, I'd imagine a hamburger bun is not much worse than a glass of coke.
    - exDM69 7y ago
      Drinking sugary liquid like coke causes very rapid rise in blood glucose levels and will require excessive amounts of injected insulin to maintain glucose in reasonable limits (which may lead to dangerous drop later). Eating something with high carbs is much slower and can be managed with normal insulin doses. White bread is not the healthiest diet, but a burger and fries every now and then is not a problem for a T1 diabetic whose treatment is under control.
SkyPuncher 7y ago
You're acting like "people" is one cohesive group. I'd largely suspect there's minimal overlap between the GMO group and potent THC vapers.
- copperx 7y ago
  While what you're saying is probably true, many people forget that humans are walking contradictions.
  - chungus_khan 7y ago
    And also the important side point that being a hypocrite doesn't inherently make your point wrong. Sure it means you don't live consistently by it, but as you said, humans do this sort of thing constantly. Someone's arguments/beliefs should be evaluated on their own merits first and foremost.
m0xte 7y ago
You’re not wrong. Lungs are for air. If we came with instructions there would be a page on this.

It amazes me people freak out about GMOs and the material Starbucks cups are made out of yet will breathe vaporized chemicals of who knows what sorts directly into their lungs. Mind boggling.

newnewpdro 7y ago

Why are you assuming it's the same people? It's not like a majority of the population vapes... while it seems to be at least somewhat popular, it's still very much the minority I see vaping.

rkeniger 7y ago
Apparently 20% of US high school students vape.
- newnewpdro 7y ago
  Which is a minority, of an already small subset of the population.

MegaButts 7y ago

That's because you can opt out of the former. "No, I won't buy from Starbucks because of their cups. No, I won't eat that because it has GMOs." It's a lot harder to make that commitment when it's the air you breathe - you either have to wear a mask all the time or move away and live in the wilderness.

plugger 7y ago
wut? the conversation is about vaping. your comment makes no sense.
DuskStar 7y ago
Oooor you can choose not to vaporize things to inhale? This isn't in normal air, it's specifically from vaping
- goatinaboat 7y ago
  No you can’t if someone is vaping near you. In fact it’s worse, since vapids make a point of blowing as much “smoke” as they can to make sure everyone sees them.
- topmonk 7y ago
  When you buy a cup from Starbucks you typically are only buying a single dose. If you buy a vape cartridge, you have dozens of doses. It's much harder to throw the latter away than the former. Suppose someone bought a car, and found out that the car vents were spewing somewhat toxic that has a slight chance to kill them. If they needed to go to work in it to put food on the table, can you see how someone might say they had no choice but to use it? Now take that logic and apply it to a vape cartridge. Say someone bought that cartridge which carries so many doses, along with paying the cost of the physical vape machine and the cost of electrically charging the machine, and spent the necessary time and emotional cost to wait for the machine to do so. Then they find it out it may be toxic. Is it really a realistic choice to take the financial and emotional burden of throwing away the cartridge, if it provides a needed soothing relief to their mind?
  - copperx 7y ago
    > Suppose someone bought a car, and found out that the car vents were spewing somewhat toxic that has a slight chance to kill them. If they needed to go to work in it to put food on the table, can you see how someone might say they had no choice but to use it? It's funny to read this here because that's exactly what happened to me. I was driving a diesel car with a damaged firewall, which meant carcinogenic diesel exhaust fumes came through the floor and vents. I had absolutely no budget for a car, as I was paying for expensive medical insurance and bills. I had no choice but to drive it with the windows down. My clothes would smell of diesel after driving. I took it multiple times to the dealership until they found the problem, and they said it would be more costly to repair it than to buy a new car. Fortunately, I eventually bought a new car. But I still might get lung cancer in the future.

cobbzilla 7y ago

Reminds me of the old joke about the guy at the fast-food joint: I’ll have a double bacon cheeseburger, a large fries, and a diet coke. Like — why are you buying this totally unhealthy meal and then getting a diet coke? Who are you kidding? Yet — I’ve been that guy. So it’s not so mind boggling.

exDM69 7y ago
Some groups like T1 diabetics can not have the amount of sugar in "normal" fizzy drinks. That amount of sugar can cause issues from nausea to messed up glucose levels needing hospitalization. Hamburgers and fries are not a problem (not healthy but not dangerous). "Diet Coke" is just a stupid name for sugar free drinks.
- copperx 7y ago
  Other advantages: no need to brush you teeth immediately after drinking soda to prevent cavities, lighter mouth feel, safer in a car (if you spill the drink there's no sticky residue), T2 diabetes risk reduction vs drinking regular soda, no added insulin response, and if you drink a lot of liquids you can have a few refills without thinking about calories.
  - skohan 7y ago
    You get all those benefits from water also. Artificial sweeteners also increase appetite and cravings for sweet food, so if you are suffering food-related illness, it's better to stay away from them as well.
- skocznymroczny 7y ago
  Is that actually true? Bread contains very high carbohydrate levels, I'd imagine a hamburger bun is not much worse than a glass of coke.
  - exDM69 7y ago
    Drinking sugary liquid like coke causes very rapid rise in blood glucose levels and will require excessive amounts of injected insulin to maintain glucose in reasonable limits (which may lead to dangerous drop later). Eating something with high carbs is much slower and can be managed with normal insulin doses. White bread is not the healthiest diet, but a burger and fries every now and then is not a problem for a T1 diabetic whose treatment is under control.

SkyPuncher 7y ago

You're acting like "people" is one cohesive group. I'd largely suspect there's minimal overlap between the GMO group and potent THC vapers.

copperx 7y ago
While what you're saying is probably true, many people forget that humans are walking contradictions.
- chungus_khan 7y ago
  And also the important side point that being a hypocrite doesn't inherently make your point wrong. Sure it means you don't live consistently by it, but as you said, humans do this sort of thing constantly. Someone's arguments/beliefs should be evaluated on their own merits first and foremost.

m0xte 7y ago

You’re not wrong. Lungs are for air. If we came with instructions there would be a page on this.