> Please look up hard-data. Do you mean data from all the studies covered in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defe

> Please look up hard-data. Do you mean data from all the studies covered in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use that seem to come loaded with critizism and are from the 90s? If we're just pulling random studies to prove our point I'd like to point out https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jels.12219 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jels.12219 as covered in https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-06-11/-more-guns-less-crime-stanford-rtc-study-suggests-otherwise https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-06-11/-more-... which seems to disbunk this whole "good guy with a gun" thing. > Compared to what number? 35-40,000 deaths per year involving guns? And of those, 20-30,000 are suicides. Yeah that's not nothing and all these numbers could likely be lowered in the long run by proper gun legislation as evidenced by other countries that chose to actually do something about it. You're for the second amendment protections on gun use and that's alright but please, let's not pretend that the majority of numbers actually mean anything in these discussions.