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Maybe they are doing it for a reason? Suppose you are 16 now and choosing a profession. Due to exceptionally long training times for doctors, you will become a

Maybe they are doing it for a reason? Suppose you are 16 now and choosing a profession. Due to exceptionally long training times for doctors, you will become a doctor so will make good money, by 30, which will be in 2033. By then, most boomers will die off and the demand for doctors will collapse, so you will find yourself will a million dollar student debt and no prospects of employment good enough to repay it. It's cyclic.

user5994461 7y ago
Most of the doctors are boomers themselves and getting retired, or dying as you said. The shortage is not about to get better.
- speedplane 7y ago
  > Most of the doctors are boomers themselves and getting retired, or dying as you said. The shortage is not about to get better. The market for doctors is fairly constant, it's very difficult to mint new doctors. Even if a state or university went through the enormous undertaking to create a new med-school, they would, at best, create 200-300 new doctors a year, a drop in the bucket. The real solution is in alternative degrees like Physician Assistants or Nurse Practitioners. They can get degrees at half the cost of doctors and yet do 80% of a doctor's work. Any real cost reductions in U.S. healthcare will have to include these alternative healthcare providers.
  - HillaryBriss 7y ago
    yes. and please let it be noted that MD associations in California opposed a law that would have allowed Nurse Practitioners to operate autonomously (as they do in some states)
pvaldes 7y ago
> you will find yourself will a million dollar student debt In USA. Definitely not in EU (currently, although there is a increasing pressure to dismantle and privatize university) On the other hand, robotic solutions are competing for more and more roles in Hospitals. We have robotic helpers for surgeons yet. At some point in the near future they will start replacing many people and this factor should be included in the picture. Specialists will do online surgeries in all country without spending the time traveling from one hospital to other. The future can need less doctors for treating the same people.

user5994461 7y ago

Most of the doctors are boomers themselves and getting retired, or dying as you said. The shortage is not about to get better.

speedplane 7y ago
> Most of the doctors are boomers themselves and getting retired, or dying as you said. The shortage is not about to get better. The market for doctors is fairly constant, it's very difficult to mint new doctors. Even if a state or university went through the enormous undertaking to create a new med-school, they would, at best, create 200-300 new doctors a year, a drop in the bucket. The real solution is in alternative degrees like Physician Assistants or Nurse Practitioners. They can get degrees at half the cost of doctors and yet do 80% of a doctor's work. Any real cost reductions in U.S. healthcare will have to include these alternative healthcare providers.
- HillaryBriss 7y ago
  yes. and please let it be noted that MD associations in California opposed a law that would have allowed Nurse Practitioners to operate autonomously (as they do in some states)

pvaldes 7y ago

> you will find yourself will a million dollar student debt In USA. Definitely not in EU (currently, although there is a increasing pressure to dismantle and privatize university) On the other hand, robotic solutions are competing for more and more roles in Hospitals. We have robotic helpers for surgeons yet. At some point in the near future they will start replacing many people and this factor should be included in the picture. Specialists will do online surgeries in all country without spending the time traveling from one hospital to other. The future can need less doctors for treating the same people.