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What is Xeni Jardin claiming? That she brought the story to the NYT but they buried it because Ito was on the board? Why didn't she take it elsewhere? Edit: I

by freyr 7y ago

What is Xeni Jardin claiming? That she brought the story to the NYT but they buried it because Ito was on the board? Why didn't she take it elsewhere? Edit: I was looking for a bit more context than a random tweet. Had to search through a bunch of tweets to find it, but apparently Xeni tweeted about Joi Ito's connection to Epstein weeks ago.

ikeboy 7y ago
She did take it elsewhere. Compare the NYMAG story and the NYT one.
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- freyr 7y ago
  She was involved in the NYMAG story? They don't quote or credit her.
  - ikeboy 7y ago
    I'm assuming so based on the tweet where she shares it and effectively says the NYT had the same info and didn't print it.
xenadu02 7y ago
This is well-known now. Epstein cultivated powerful connections deliberately to insulate himself from scrutiny. It seems likely that he deliberately put politicians and famous people into compromising positions to ensure their cooperation (throwing lavish parties at his mansion, supplying the drugs and the underage girls). MIT banned Epstein from donating after his Sex Offender conviction. Ito did an end-run around that ban (in addition to taking Epstein’s money personally which is a separate level of unethical). Xeni spilled the beans on this (Epstein bypassing the ban, Ito’s involvement) to the NYT, which then buried the story likely due to Epstein’s political connections. Many papers and media outlets killed Epstein stories.
- smsm42 7y ago
  > NYT, which then buried the story. /.../ Many papers and media outlets killed Epstein stories. So, I imagine many editors from NYT and many other papers has resigned from their jobs and their memberships in whatever professional organizations, boards, etc. they have been on, because of that? Or the press is not supposed to be held to ethical standard because... well, because they are The Press, so they are above scrutiny?
  - adventured 7y ago
    The NYT has very prominently been in ethical collapse mode for several years now. This is just another in a line of a dozen or so scandals surrounding their credibility, or rather, their no longer existent credibility. They're the biggest joke in mainstream news in the US right now and that's not an easy thing to accomplish while Fox News still exists. There is zero chance editors and journalists at the NYT resign over this. There are probably some infamous tabloids with higher ethical standards than the NYT at this point.
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    - arcticfox 7y ago
      Sources? I haven't heard of any of these scandals. And even this story could simply be the NYT failing to corroborate the more salacious accusations with more than one source yet, therefore not running them.
      - jpster 7y ago
        IDK about their ethical motivations, but they made serious errors in judgement. They delayed publishing on Bush’s illegal surveillance because his admin asked them to. IIRC they had the opportunity to break this story before he was reelected and didn't. See also Judith Miller’s botched reporting episodes. https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/politics/bush-lets-us-spy-on-callers-without-courts.html https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/politics/bush-lets-us-spy... https://www.salon.com/2015/07/30/the_new_york_times_humiliating_judith_miller_deja_vu_how_their_hillary_investigation_went_so_wrong_partner/ https://www.salon.com/2015/07/30/the_new_york_times_humiliat...

by freyr 7y ago

ikeboy 7y ago

She did take it elsewhere. Compare the NYMAG story and the NYT one.

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freyr 7y ago
She was involved in the NYMAG story? They don't quote or credit her.
- ikeboy 7y ago
  I'm assuming so based on the tweet where she shares it and effectively says the NYT had the same info and didn't print it.

xenadu02 7y ago

This is well-known now. Epstein cultivated powerful connections deliberately to insulate himself from scrutiny. It seems likely that he deliberately put politicians and famous people into compromising positions to ensure their cooperation (throwing lavish parties at his mansion, supplying the drugs and the underage girls). MIT banned Epstein from donating after his Sex Offender conviction. Ito did an end-run around that ban (in addition to taking Epstein’s money personally which is a separate level of unethical). Xeni spilled the beans on this (Epstein bypassing the ban, Ito’s involvement) to the NYT, which then buried the story likely due to Epstein’s political connections. Many papers and media outlets killed Epstein stories.

smsm42 7y ago
> NYT, which then buried the story. /.../ Many papers and media outlets killed Epstein stories. So, I imagine many editors from NYT and many other papers has resigned from their jobs and their memberships in whatever professional organizations, boards, etc. they have been on, because of that? Or the press is not supposed to be held to ethical standard because... well, because they are The Press, so they are above scrutiny?
- adventured 7y ago
  The NYT has very prominently been in ethical collapse mode for several years now. This is just another in a line of a dozen or so scandals surrounding their credibility, or rather, their no longer existent credibility. They're the biggest joke in mainstream news in the US right now and that's not an easy thing to accomplish while Fox News still exists. There is zero chance editors and journalists at the NYT resign over this. There are probably some infamous tabloids with higher ethical standards than the NYT at this point.
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  - arcticfox 7y ago
    Sources? I haven't heard of any of these scandals. And even this story could simply be the NYT failing to corroborate the more salacious accusations with more than one source yet, therefore not running them.
    - jpster 7y ago
      IDK about their ethical motivations, but they made serious errors in judgement. They delayed publishing on Bush’s illegal surveillance because his admin asked them to. IIRC they had the opportunity to break this story before he was reelected and didn't. See also Judith Miller’s botched reporting episodes. https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/politics/bush-lets-us-spy-on-callers-without-courts.html https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/politics/bush-lets-us-spy... https://www.salon.com/2015/07/30/the_new_york_times_humiliating_judith_miller_deja_vu_how_their_hillary_investigation_went_so_wrong_partner/ https://www.salon.com/2015/07/30/the_new_york_times_humiliat...