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I think you are seriously underestimating the difference. Imagine getting a call from your wife. Do you doubt right now if it’s her or something that just soun

I think you are seriously underestimating the difference. Imagine getting a call from your wife. Do you doubt right now if it’s her or something that just sounds similar. This man could have know the ceo quite well.

vincnetas 7y ago
One thing is caller id spoofing (would it be possible to spoof my wife caller id), another thing is how reasonable my "wife's" request is.
- phpnode 7y ago
  1. Yes, the ease with which attackers can take over a phone number is a big security issue in general 2. You might question your wife's request but people are far less likely to question their CEO in the same way, it might be seen as insubordination
- zuck9 7y ago
  It's dead easy to spoof caller IDs. Any kid could do it.
  - vincnetas 7y ago
    Somehow looks it's not so easy to do in EU. Especially with mobile phone numbers. Or i'm just bad at googling.
bryanrasmussen 7y ago
I just have to assume that they got a good impersonator which sounds a lot more doable than having an AI. but the deepfake thing is a good story.
xendo 7y ago
I wouldn’t wire my wife $250k based solely on a phone conversation.
- viraptor 7y ago
  That's because this is not a usual request. It could be for the CEO - only they know how likely that was to happen.
- dgudkov 7y ago
  It's just a matter of scale. For some companies $250K is pocket lint. Would you tell your wife your credit card number if she called you and told you her card is blocked for some reason and she needs to refill the gas tank or buy something?
  - Tade0 7y ago
    A while ago a friend who I hadn't seen since 2011 messaged me on Facebook asking if I could take a look at his account on a guitar forum we both used to frequent, because he thought his account was stolen, but couldn't check it for activity without making a new one(and probably also having enough posts to be considered "in"). So I asked who sold him that Music Man Petrucci 7-string in 2009(or so) and after he answered correctly, I followed through with his request. My point being: it helps to have such a question prepared for everyone - or alternatively - a question concerning some fact about you that only people who know you could answer.
  - Traster 7y ago
    Funnily, companies for whom $250k is pocket lint since they're big enough to have processes for payments and it's often incredibly difficult to circumvent those processes.

vincnetas 7y ago

One thing is caller id spoofing (would it be possible to spoof my wife caller id), another thing is how reasonable my "wife's" request is.

phpnode 7y ago
1. Yes, the ease with which attackers can take over a phone number is a big security issue in general 2. You might question your wife's request but people are far less likely to question their CEO in the same way, it might be seen as insubordination
zuck9 7y ago
It's dead easy to spoof caller IDs. Any kid could do it.
- vincnetas 7y ago
  Somehow looks it's not so easy to do in EU. Especially with mobile phone numbers. Or i'm just bad at googling.

bryanrasmussen 7y ago

I just have to assume that they got a good impersonator which sounds a lot more doable than having an AI. but the deepfake thing is a good story.

xendo 7y ago

I wouldn’t wire my wife $250k based solely on a phone conversation.

viraptor 7y ago
That's because this is not a usual request. It could be for the CEO - only they know how likely that was to happen.
dgudkov 7y ago
It's just a matter of scale. For some companies $250K is pocket lint. Would you tell your wife your credit card number if she called you and told you her card is blocked for some reason and she needs to refill the gas tank or buy something?
- Tade0 7y ago
  A while ago a friend who I hadn't seen since 2011 messaged me on Facebook asking if I could take a look at his account on a guitar forum we both used to frequent, because he thought his account was stolen, but couldn't check it for activity without making a new one(and probably also having enough posts to be considered "in"). So I asked who sold him that Music Man Petrucci 7-string in 2009(or so) and after he answered correctly, I followed through with his request. My point being: it helps to have such a question prepared for everyone - or alternatively - a question concerning some fact about you that only people who know you could answer.
- Traster 7y ago
  Funnily, companies for whom $250k is pocket lint since they're big enough to have processes for payments and it's often incredibly difficult to circumvent those processes.