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If you're a tab hoarder, Chrome does seem to have gotten worse in the last year. Usually the GPU process. Even if your tabs are all inactive, killed by somethi

by asadkn 7y ago

If you're a tab hoarder, Chrome does seem to have gotten worse in the last year. Usually the GPU process. Even if your tabs are all inactive, killed by something like Great Discarder, the GPU process continues to use a lot of RAM (2GB in my case, at times) and CPU. I am not sure if it's a Mac-specific issue though.

klingonopera 7y ago
Honest question to tab hoarders, why not use bookmarks? It saves bandwidth, system resources, makes you less prone to tracking and cross-site scripting, at the cost of some elevated organizational/management work and slightly less convenience?
- imtringued 7y ago
  Because bookmarks are a pain in the ass. I have 174 bookmarks for sites that I have only visited once and will never visit again and finding whatever I want takes minutes. I literally cannot comprehend why anyone would use bookmarks when the friction is multiple orders of magnitude higher. 99% of my tabs do not live longer than 10 minutes so why should I want to persist them in a messy non hierarchical list that is neither organized by context nor by time? If you somehow make bookmarks as frictionless as tabs by making the new tab button create a bookmark and then show that bookmark as a tree structure on the sidebar then it wouldn't be any meaningfully different from a tab other than the fact that it has to reload the entire page every time you switch bookmarks.
  - klingonopera 7y ago
    Granted, that is a different use case. I've seen tab hoarders fire up their browser, with the same 50 tabs open over and over again, and they usually only need one. AFAIK, Firefox has countered this by only loading the tabs when you activate them after a cold start, so that's pretty much automated bookmarking. I wouldn't know how to manage without bookmarks (well, yes, .url files actually, but that's another issue). I'm guessing I have a few hundred of them, and I find what I need easily, because you can organize them in folders.
- viraptor 7y ago
  > makes you less prone to tracking and cross-site scripting Huh? Those have not much to do with whether some tab is open or not. Pages that have reasons to care about seeing length (and many which don't have good reasons) will log you out anyway.
  - klingonopera 7y ago
    Well, more open tabs means more connections to the Internet, which means more tracking is inherently possible. Or the other way around, reducing open tabs reduces the number of possible tracking vectors. You're right, cross-site scripting is the wrong word, sorry... what do you call it what the Spectre-exploit does? It was the case that the exploit could access data from the other tab via Javascript, IIRC.

by asadkn 7y ago

klingonopera 7y ago

Honest question to tab hoarders, why not use bookmarks? It saves bandwidth, system resources, makes you less prone to tracking and cross-site scripting, at the cost of some elevated organizational/management work and slightly less convenience?

imtringued 7y ago
Because bookmarks are a pain in the ass. I have 174 bookmarks for sites that I have only visited once and will never visit again and finding whatever I want takes minutes. I literally cannot comprehend why anyone would use bookmarks when the friction is multiple orders of magnitude higher. 99% of my tabs do not live longer than 10 minutes so why should I want to persist them in a messy non hierarchical list that is neither organized by context nor by time? If you somehow make bookmarks as frictionless as tabs by making the new tab button create a bookmark and then show that bookmark as a tree structure on the sidebar then it wouldn't be any meaningfully different from a tab other than the fact that it has to reload the entire page every time you switch bookmarks.
- klingonopera 7y ago
  Granted, that is a different use case. I've seen tab hoarders fire up their browser, with the same 50 tabs open over and over again, and they usually only need one. AFAIK, Firefox has countered this by only loading the tabs when you activate them after a cold start, so that's pretty much automated bookmarking. I wouldn't know how to manage without bookmarks (well, yes, .url files actually, but that's another issue). I'm guessing I have a few hundred of them, and I find what I need easily, because you can organize them in folders.
viraptor 7y ago
> makes you less prone to tracking and cross-site scripting Huh? Those have not much to do with whether some tab is open or not. Pages that have reasons to care about seeing length (and many which don't have good reasons) will log you out anyway.
- klingonopera 7y ago
  Well, more open tabs means more connections to the Internet, which means more tracking is inherently possible. Or the other way around, reducing open tabs reduces the number of possible tracking vectors. You're right, cross-site scripting is the wrong word, sorry... what do you call it what the Spectre-exploit does? It was the case that the exploit could access data from the other tab via Javascript, IIRC.