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Since no one's mentioned it yet: both depression and anxiety are extremely treatable. Regardless of whatever HN folks think is the cause, therapists and psychi

by flaque 7y ago

Since no one's mentioned it yet: both depression and anxiety are extremely treatable. Regardless of whatever HN folks think is the cause, therapists and psychiatrists are an actual solution; you should see one.

ThrowawayP 7y ago
> ...both depression and anxiety are extremely treatable. When did that happen? As someone who has undergone treatment for many years and read a lot of the literature, the long-term success rates for treatment of depression are mediocre, at best.
tomhoward 7y ago
This is largely false. Some mainstream treatment approaches can be somewhat effective for some people. Maybe they can be completely effective for some people. I'm not going to argue the toss on that. But there's a significant cohort of people for whom these conditions do not respond well to conventional treatment, at least to the extent of full recovery. I'm one of those people. We're talking about at least 19 years of dealing with anxiety, and plenty of depression along the way. Some medications have been moderately effective at abating some of the symptoms, but not at bringing about anything approximating complete recovery and a "normal" life. What has been effective for me is a long-term program involving a combination of subconscious emotional healing techniques, as well as various physiological healing methods, including: - detoxification of heavy metals (including lead, mercury, aluminium), - increasing/balancing levels of critical nutrients (particularly minerals - calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, iron and zinc, as well as iodine, which is critically low in many people with complex health problems, due to its crucial role in thyroid function, and which is insufficient in may people's diets, particularly in western countries), - addressing chronic infections (e.g., Epstein Barr, Cytomegalovirus, fungal, bacterial and parasitic infections), - adopting an anti-inflammatory diet, and - regularly engaging in the right kinds of exercise (stretching and core strength exercises like yoga/pilates), and moderate (definitely not strenuous) cardio exercise like brisk walking. After about 8 years of that I'm almost fully recovered, I think and desperately hope. But you won't get recommendations for any of these approaches from a conventional psychologist or psychiatrist, and if you were to ask one about them you'd get laughed out of the clinic. Thus, many people continue to suffer, even after years of treatment from mainstream practitioners.
raxxorrax 7y ago
The nudging towards concellors might be correct, but I doubt reality can match expectations. It is not that you could pay sum x to the therapist of your choice and you will be mentally healthy again. It can result in you just getting drugged enough in many cases. It would be interesting to know how these problems manifest in the first place. Until then I would say your assesment is probably wrong.

by flaque 7y ago

ThrowawayP 7y ago

> ...both depression and anxiety are extremely treatable. When did that happen? As someone who has undergone treatment for many years and read a lot of the literature, the long-term success rates for treatment of depression are mediocre, at best.

tomhoward 7y ago

This is largely false. Some mainstream treatment approaches can be somewhat effective for some people. Maybe they can be completely effective for some people. I'm not going to argue the toss on that. But there's a significant cohort of people for whom these conditions do not respond well to conventional treatment, at least to the extent of full recovery. I'm one of those people. We're talking about at least 19 years of dealing with anxiety, and plenty of depression along the way. Some medications have been moderately effective at abating some of the symptoms, but not at bringing about anything approximating complete recovery and a "normal" life. What has been effective for me is a long-term program involving a combination of subconscious emotional healing techniques, as well as various physiological healing methods, including: - detoxification of heavy metals (including lead, mercury, aluminium), - increasing/balancing levels of critical nutrients (particularly minerals - calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, iron and zinc, as well as iodine, which is critically low in many people with complex health problems, due to its crucial role in thyroid function, and which is insufficient in may people's diets, particularly in western countries), - addressing chronic infections (e.g., Epstein Barr, Cytomegalovirus, fungal, bacterial and parasitic infections), - adopting an anti-inflammatory diet, and - regularly engaging in the right kinds of exercise (stretching and core strength exercises like yoga/pilates), and moderate (definitely not strenuous) cardio exercise like brisk walking. After about 8 years of that I'm almost fully recovered, I think and desperately hope. But you won't get recommendations for any of these approaches from a conventional psychologist or psychiatrist, and if you were to ask one about them you'd get laughed out of the clinic. Thus, many people continue to suffer, even after years of treatment from mainstream practitioners.

raxxorrax 7y ago

The nudging towards concellors might be correct, but I doubt reality can match expectations. It is not that you could pay sum x to the therapist of your choice and you will be mentally healthy again. It can result in you just getting drugged enough in many cases. It would be interesting to know how these problems manifest in the first place. Until then I would say your assesment is probably wrong.