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There's also a huge difference between setting up a properly configured server and actually getting things delivered. The big ones (MS, Google) mark your mail a
by the_jeremy 7y ago
There's also a huge difference between setting up a properly configured server and actually getting things delivered. The big ones (MS, Google) mark your mail as spam even with SPF, DMARC, DKIM and the like. Even on the service I use (purelymail.com) the low volume of mail and the fact that it's less than a year old means that even when I email them first, the replies are sometimes marked as spam.
- wolco 7y agoThat's a bug with gmail and those who use gmail should be aware they may be missing emails.
- number6 7y agoRunning my own for about 2 years now. Spf dMarc and dkim set it is accepted by all mail providers. I also get daily reports from Google how well it behaves
- acidburnNSA 7y agoSame here, except to Charter, who has apparently just blacklisted swaths of DigitalOcean IPs, probably for some reason. So I just can't email my mom. Other than that, a great experience.
- guggle 7y ago> So I just can't email my mom. Other than that, a great experience. You made the point.
- Kaveren 7y agoAre you using IPv6 or IPv4 to send the emails? DigitalOcean apparently blocks port 25 outbound IPv6 access because whole ranges are getting blocked.
- acidburnNSA 7y agoI'm doing IPv4. The discussion is here: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/is-anybody-else-having-issues-with-delivering-mail-to-charter-net https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/is-anybody-...
- scarface74 7y agoExcept it doesn’t work to send an email to someone who I assume is important to you - “it’s a great experience”. Isn’t that an argument for why you shouldn’t run your own mail server?
- acidburnNSA 7y agoWell I just have to do the one more step of forwarding the SMTP to sendgrid or whatever and then it will be top notch. It hasn't been enough of a pain for me yet to do that next step. I just signal her instead of email.
- baobabKoodaa 7y ago> Running my own for about 2 years now. Spf dMarc and dkim set it is accepted by all mail providers. I also get daily reports from Google how well it behaves This is false. The dmarc reports from Google do not actually give you the portion of email that is placed in recipients' spam folder.
- roel_v 7y ago"I also get daily reports from Google how well it behaves" Do you ever read them? If so, how is daily (!) routine maintenance of your email setup not a massive (well, relatively speaking) headache?
- number6 7y agoAs mentioned by another user: "The dmarc reports from Google do not actually give you the portion of email that is placed in recipients' spam folder." So it is just about the server and and dns part (the things I as an administrator can control) Since I configured it in the beginning the reports are all green so I just glance over them. Takes about 10 seconds. Then again I like to work with infrastructure so your mileage may vary in regard to how much headaches it causes
- rhizome 7y agoThe big ones (MS, Google) mark your mail as spam even with SPF, DMARC, DKIM and the like. This is such a canard. I have almost zero problems delivering to anybody from my closet server, and the only thing that has happened in the last several years was getting notices that AT&T was blocking me. I did a quick relay check and emailed postmaster@. It only took a day or two to get an email saying I was clean to them again, and that was without the DNS security extensions you mention. Maybe cable modem users are held to a different standard? Dynamic IP addresses? I have DSL with static IPs.