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>CarPlay will be non-negotiable. I don’t want to have a separate computer system to manage in my car. I want to use the insanely powerful pocket computer I alwa

by Isamu 7y ago

>CarPlay will be non-negotiable. I don’t want to have a separate computer system to manage in my car. I want to use the insanely powerful pocket computer I always have with me with my car’s audio system and display. I agree, but even CarPlay is not flawless. And when something weird happens, it's hard to decide if the flaw is on the phone side or on the car side, since it's not clear how much is the responsibility of the car display. But there are enough weird glitches when the phone is not plugged in at all.

saagarjha 7y ago
CarPlay is almost entirely run by your phone.
- MBCook 7y ago
  Yes, but you still see little things like graphical glitches or an occasional audio pop that sounds like some buffer didn’t get refilled in time. They’re rare but they happen.
pfranz 7y ago
At least on the phone side there's some likelihood it'll get patched. You're also more likely to get a new phone before you get a new car, even if you drive a luxury car and lease it. My 2016 car has a bluetooth bug where it freezes the whole radio. I specifically avoided the higher end touchscreen model. The only way to reset the unit is to turn off the car (which can be problematic on the highway). I took it to the dealer and asked if there was a software update for the infotainment system and described my issue. They looked a bit confused at the idea of a software update.
jakobegger 7y ago
Carplay has been a pretty buggy experience for me as well (in a Citroen). I'm not sure how much it's the fault of the car or the phone. - sometimes nothing happens when I plug in the phone - navigation instructions are sometimes barely audible even though the music is loud - Siri sometimes gets stuck It's nice when it works, but it still feels a lot like a beta. Siri voice recognition is really bad. The car's built in voice navigation is much better (eg. the car will offer the top 3 choices when it's not sure, and I can just say "2" when number two is correct. Siri on the other hand will almost always try to send me to places hundreds of kilometers away....
- judge2020 7y ago
  Those are most likely all integration issues. - the car can choose to always open carplay when the phone is plugged in, or it could use other signals to "intelligently" decide if it should open carplay. You can try seeing if it pops up depending on what state the UI is in (are you in a menu?), the time since you last interacted with the display, or whether or not the car is moving. - likely an issue with attenuation on the car's side (if you're listening to music via the car; if music and navigation is through carplay that's an issue) - car might be doing something to activate or pass through the microphone to the phone
mikl 7y ago
Yeah, I’m not hoping for perfection. My iPhone is not perfect either, but Apple’s software is still in a very different league, quality wise, than BMW’s.
csours 7y ago
From my own understanding, it is much more difficult to work with the Apple bluetooth stack than the Android bluetooth stack, at least from a non-Apple point of view. Apple makes damn sure their products inter-operate, but they are not good about following Postel's law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle

by Isamu 7y ago

saagarjha 7y ago

CarPlay is almost entirely run by your phone.

MBCook 7y ago
Yes, but you still see little things like graphical glitches or an occasional audio pop that sounds like some buffer didn’t get refilled in time. They’re rare but they happen.

pfranz 7y ago

At least on the phone side there's some likelihood it'll get patched. You're also more likely to get a new phone before you get a new car, even if you drive a luxury car and lease it. My 2016 car has a bluetooth bug where it freezes the whole radio. I specifically avoided the higher end touchscreen model. The only way to reset the unit is to turn off the car (which can be problematic on the highway). I took it to the dealer and asked if there was a software update for the infotainment system and described my issue. They looked a bit confused at the idea of a software update.

jakobegger 7y ago

Carplay has been a pretty buggy experience for me as well (in a Citroen). I'm not sure how much it's the fault of the car or the phone. - sometimes nothing happens when I plug in the phone - navigation instructions are sometimes barely audible even though the music is loud - Siri sometimes gets stuck It's nice when it works, but it still feels a lot like a beta. Siri voice recognition is really bad. The car's built in voice navigation is much better (eg. the car will offer the top 3 choices when it's not sure, and I can just say "2" when number two is correct. Siri on the other hand will almost always try to send me to places hundreds of kilometers away....

judge2020 7y ago
Those are most likely all integration issues. - the car can choose to always open carplay when the phone is plugged in, or it could use other signals to "intelligently" decide if it should open carplay. You can try seeing if it pops up depending on what state the UI is in (are you in a menu?), the time since you last interacted with the display, or whether or not the car is moving. - likely an issue with attenuation on the car's side (if you're listening to music via the car; if music and navigation is through carplay that's an issue) - car might be doing something to activate or pass through the microphone to the phone

mikl 7y ago

Yeah, I’m not hoping for perfection. My iPhone is not perfect either, but Apple’s software is still in a very different league, quality wise, than BMW’s.

csours 7y ago

From my own understanding, it is much more difficult to work with the Apple bluetooth stack than the Android bluetooth stack, at least from a non-Apple point of view. Apple makes damn sure their products inter-operate, but they are not good about following Postel's law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle