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Frankly, I don't care about any economic argument that says people shouldn't have the ability to put food on their table, a roof over their head, and have decen
by morvita 7y ago
Frankly, I don't care about any economic argument that says people shouldn't have the ability to put food on their table, a roof over their head, and have decent healthcare. Any company that cannot be profitable and pay their employees enough to cover basic needs shouldn't exist as a company.
- dymk 7y agoThey can go find a different job that pays more. Uber driving is not skilled labor. How it’s justified as a 21/hr job I don’t understand.
- morvita 7y agoI genuinely don't know how to explain that the fact it requires an income of more than 21/hr to meet basic needs is all the justification that should be required. Maybe if we stopped thinking of employees/contractors as "labor" and thought of them as people it would be easier to empathize with their needs. Do you think that your friends, family, and loved ones deserve a wage that meets their basic needs? Why shouldn't all humans deserve the same?
- dymk 7y agoIt only requires that amount if you’re intent on living in the most expensive cities in the entire country.
- toephu2 7y agoThat's not how capitalism works and that's not why companies exist. Companies pay you what you worth to them. A company is not a human, it doesn't care whether you have a family and are struggling or not. The primary purpose of a business is to maximize profits for its stakeholders.
- behringer 7y agoThen the answer is simple, if we want humanism in the way we deal with employees, than businesses that seek to maximize profits for their stakeholders should be outlawed.
- behringer 7y agoWhy should skilled laborors be able to raise a family and not unskilled? Like what makes educated people more valuable as human beings?
- dymk 7y agoAlmost anybody is able to become a skilled laborer :) all it takes is time and effort.
- behringer 7y agoAnd a skilled laboror doesn't deserve more than 60-100k/year or more than? Why should everybody's pay be the same or decreasing and not CEOs and VCs?
- dymk 7y agoYou should be paid what the market says you’re worth, which is exactly what you can negotiate to be paid.
- behringer 7y agoWhich is exactly what we're talking about. Instead of getting paid what we're worth, we have mega corporations like Uber breaking laws, ignoring regulations, and then lobbying for regulations when it suits them. It's rather disgusting.
- malandrew 7y ago> Any company that cannot be profitable and pay their employees enough to cover basic needs shouldn't exist as a company. There are many ways to cover your basic needs that don't require you to live on your own in a one-bedroom apartment and three square meals a day. In fact, most of humanity survived by pooling resources. The ability to live entirely on your own being common is a very recent phenomena as is three square meals a day. All your stating is that people shouldn't have options where they can pool resources. As someone supporting two older adults in my household, you're saying that if they can't get hold a livable wage jobs (unlikely given that one has Parkinson's) but still still could earn money and contribute to the household. You've not made my circumstances harder by legislating away opportunities for them to contribute.
- scarface74 7y agoWhy should a company be responsible for healthcare? It’s not the case anywhere else in the world?
- davinic 7y agoBecause that's the system under which we live. Healthcare should be provided to all by the government for free, but until then we must live under the system.
- scarface74 7y agoSo instead of complaining about a company should provide health benefits, complain about the government.
- dzamie 7y agoAdvocating an increased minimum wage is complaining about the government.
- scarface74 7y agoDo you think that everyone deserves “a livable wage” - even my 17 year old son staying at home flipping pizza?
- behringer 7y agoYes. We're an immensely wealthy country
- scarface74 7y agoWho should pay for it? The pizza shop owner with a net income of under $50K a year after working 70+ hours a week? Increase taxes on the household making an average of $70K a year so the government can subsidize his pay while he stays in a household making over twice the average household income? Does the pizza owner also deserve an adequate return on investment to make his risk worthwhile or should he also work for minimum wage at a larger corporation?
- gtfratteus 7y agoWell you should, because setting the minimum wage at $21 would eliminate many people's ability to put food on the table. Comments like this are why people think the Democrats are the party of idiots.