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Are you referring to the behaviour described here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g4oh2GGZOsucZfT1YJ5wjDUSk3ntbM3RNAxVs528-NM/preview https://docs.google.co

Are you referring to the behaviour described here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g4oh2GGZOsucZfT1YJ5wjDUSk3ntbM3RNAxVs528-NM/preview https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g4oh2GGZOsucZfT1YJ5wjDUS... (for instance using the words "guys", "stupid" and "crazy") or something else?

__exit__ 7y ago
What's the source of that document? I found a page[0] with more info and link references to multiple sources that seems to explain everything in detail. [0]: https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactivate-their-twitter-accounts-302 https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactiv...
- sweeneyrod 7y ago
  The last Tweet in the article you link
- k__ 7y ago
  Interesting that the Vue devs are the source of this.
layoutIfNeeded 7y ago
The word “guys” means something bad in the U.S.? Sorry, English is not my native language, and I’m genuinely interested because I’ve been using this word quite often and didn’t know it’s offensive.
- bayesian_horse 7y ago
  Depends on context. If you are a female developer and get constantly referred to as "guy" or to be part of "guys", it's at best annoying. Just as "guys" don't like to get called "girls".
  - layoutIfNeeded 7y ago
    I see! I didn’t know this was the case in the US. I’ve checked my English dictionary and it says: >guys: Informal Persons of either sex. I guess it’s one of those differences between British and American English. Good to know, because it seems like one could easily get in trouble for using it incorrectly (in the British sense) in the US! Thanks!
    - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
      Yes, this is country specific, and girls who take offense are primarily in the USA or have learned American English.
      - k__ 7y ago
        The problem doesn't seem to be that it is male in some places and neutral in others, but that it's considered neutral even tho' it's clearly male.
        seanmcdirmid 7y ago
        Guy is only clearly male in American English. Guy Fawkes was male of course, but the term “some anonymous guy” does not refer to anyone in particular. The word has clearly evolved differently in the states than it did in the UK which originated it.
        bayesian_horse 7y ago
        That's a big "only" when we are talking about American developers at an American Conference.
        fit2rule 7y ago
        I got into trouble with this word and American people enough that I just never use it and say 'folks' instead..
        bayesian_horse 7y ago
- coldtea 7y ago
  >The word “guys” means something bad in the U.S.? Only among people who think just because everybody should change how they talk to accommodate their (frequently updated) ideologies...

__exit__ 7y ago

What's the source of that document? I found a page[0] with more info and link references to multiple sources that seems to explain everything in detail. [0]: https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactivate-their-twitter-accounts-302 https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactiv...

sweeneyrod 7y ago
The last Tweet in the article you link
k__ 7y ago
Interesting that the Vue devs are the source of this.

layoutIfNeeded 7y ago

The word “guys” means something bad in the U.S.? Sorry, English is not my native language, and I’m genuinely interested because I’ve been using this word quite often and didn’t know it’s offensive.

bayesian_horse 7y ago
Depends on context. If you are a female developer and get constantly referred to as "guy" or to be part of "guys", it's at best annoying. Just as "guys" don't like to get called "girls".
- layoutIfNeeded 7y ago
  I see! I didn’t know this was the case in the US. I’ve checked my English dictionary and it says: >guys: Informal Persons of either sex. I guess it’s one of those differences between British and American English. Good to know, because it seems like one could easily get in trouble for using it incorrectly (in the British sense) in the US! Thanks!
  - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
    Yes, this is country specific, and girls who take offense are primarily in the USA or have learned American English.
    - k__ 7y ago
      The problem doesn't seem to be that it is male in some places and neutral in others, but that it's considered neutral even tho' it's clearly male.
      - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
        Guy is only clearly male in American English. Guy Fawkes was male of course, but the term “some anonymous guy” does not refer to anyone in particular. The word has clearly evolved differently in the states than it did in the UK which originated it.
        bayesian_horse 7y ago
        That's a big "only" when we are talking about American developers at an American Conference.
      - fit2rule 7y ago
        I got into trouble with this word and American people enough that I just never use it and say 'folks' instead..
      - bayesian_horse 7y ago
coldtea 7y ago
>The word “guys” means something bad in the U.S.? Only among people who think just because everybody should change how they talk to accommodate their (frequently updated) ideologies...