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It seems like the well known React developer has a somewhat more ... illustrous ... history of questionable behavior, so while he may not be an actually white s
by bayesian_horse 7y ago
It seems like the well known React developer has a somewhat more ... illustrous ... history of questionable behavior, so while he may not be an actually white supremacist, he does seem to fit a certain toxic mold.
On the other hand, the mentioned female developer has probably had quite a lot of such experiences with direct and indirect racism, perceived or actual, but either she kept quiet or it didn't blow up that much.
- sweeneyrod 7y agoAre you referring to the behaviour described here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g4oh2GGZOsucZfT1YJ5wjDUSk3ntbM3RNAxVs528-NM/preview https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g4oh2GGZOsucZfT1YJ5wjDUS... (for instance using the words "guys", "stupid" and "crazy") or something else?
- __exit__ 7y agoWhat's the source of that document? I found a page[0] with more info and link references to multiple sources that seems to explain everything in detail. [0]: https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactivate-their-twitter-accounts-302 https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactiv...
- sweeneyrod 7y agoThe last Tweet in the article you link
- k__ 7y agoInteresting that the Vue devs are the source of this.
- layoutIfNeeded 7y agoThe word “guys” means something bad in the U.S.? Sorry, English is not my native language, and I’m genuinely interested because I’ve been using this word quite often and didn’t know it’s offensive.
- bayesian_horse 7y agoDepends on context. If you are a female developer and get constantly referred to as "guy" or to be part of "guys", it's at best annoying. Just as "guys" don't like to get called "girls".
- layoutIfNeeded 7y agoI see! I didn’t know this was the case in the US. I’ve checked my English dictionary and it says: >guys: Informal Persons of either sex. I guess it’s one of those differences between British and American English. Good to know, because it seems like one could easily get in trouble for using it incorrectly (in the British sense) in the US! Thanks!
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoYes, this is country specific, and girls who take offense are primarily in the USA or have learned American English.
- k__ 7y agoThe problem doesn't seem to be that it is male in some places and neutral in others, but that it's considered neutral even tho' it's clearly male.
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoGuy is only clearly male in American English. Guy Fawkes was male of course, but the term “some anonymous guy” does not refer to anyone in particular. The word has clearly evolved differently in the states than it did in the UK which originated it.
- bayesian_horse 7y agoThat's a big "only" when we are talking about American developers at an American Conference.
- coldtea 7y ago>so while he may not be an actually white supremacist, he does seem to fit a certain toxic mold. E.g. person who doesn't agree with my favorite ideology on all its points?