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If you want true freedom, get a Nokia 8110 - I felt a weight off my shoulder using the device. Atleast for the week I've used the device. Then, life caught on.

If you want true freedom, get a Nokia 8110 - I felt a weight off my shoulder using the device. Atleast for the week I've used the device. Then, life caught on. You can't manage kids' activities, work schedules and your social life without a smartphone these days.

raxxorrax 7y ago
Beyond this model, Nokia builds amazing phones lately. They don't have the best specs so they are only average in tests, but I don't think those are focusing on things that are important, to me at least. They have really good update policies and their Android version is very clean.
- cesnja 7y ago
  OTOH, beware of who's accessing your data [1]. There was more than one incident, if I recall correctly. [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-firmware-blunder-sent-some-user-data-to-china/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-firmware-blunder-sent-so...
rvense 7y ago
In my city you can't park your car in a lot of places with a an app that's only available in the Apple and Google app stores. Over the past few years cash payments between people have been replaced by something that's also only available as an iPhone or Android app. I'm sure there are other things. The next iteration of our government's single-sign-on solution will probably also been an app, at which point owning a smartphone will in essence become a legal requirement.
stinos 7y ago
You can't manage kids' activities, work schedules and your social life without a smartphone these days. May I ask where you live? Or did you mean 'without a computer'? Works perfectly for me in Western Europe.
- maccard 7y ago
  My office requires 2fa login. You can set up text notifications but all our documentation mentions smartphone apps. My bank used a smart phone for 2fa, no text or card reader options available. My credit card is app only. Parking in my city is discounted using their app. Real time transport information (bus and taxi) is app only. It’s possible to do without but things are much less painful with a smart phone.
  - Freak_NL 7y ago
    > My office requires 2fa login. Do they use TOTP? That can be done with a browser extension as well. > My bank used a smart phone for 2fa, no text or card reader options available. That sounds rather exceptional, which bank is this? I know one of the twelve or so Dutch banks does this (Bunq, a newcomer), but if any of the larger ones would drop non-smartphone authentication it would run into political trouble.
  - wolfgke 7y ago
    > My bank used a smart phone for 2fa, no text or card reader options available. Switch your bank.
    - tortasaur 7y ago
      Why? TOTP is the one form of 2FA I would want to be the only option, were I limited to one.

raxxorrax 7y ago

Beyond this model, Nokia builds amazing phones lately. They don't have the best specs so they are only average in tests, but I don't think those are focusing on things that are important, to me at least. They have really good update policies and their Android version is very clean.

cesnja 7y ago
OTOH, beware of who's accessing your data [1]. There was more than one incident, if I recall correctly. [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-firmware-blunder-sent-some-user-data-to-china/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-firmware-blunder-sent-so...

rvense 7y ago

In my city you can't park your car in a lot of places with a an app that's only available in the Apple and Google app stores. Over the past few years cash payments between people have been replaced by something that's also only available as an iPhone or Android app. I'm sure there are other things. The next iteration of our government's single-sign-on solution will probably also been an app, at which point owning a smartphone will in essence become a legal requirement.

stinos 7y ago

You can't manage kids' activities, work schedules and your social life without a smartphone these days. May I ask where you live? Or did you mean 'without a computer'? Works perfectly for me in Western Europe.

maccard 7y ago
My office requires 2fa login. You can set up text notifications but all our documentation mentions smartphone apps. My bank used a smart phone for 2fa, no text or card reader options available. My credit card is app only. Parking in my city is discounted using their app. Real time transport information (bus and taxi) is app only. It’s possible to do without but things are much less painful with a smart phone.
- Freak_NL 7y ago
  > My office requires 2fa login. Do they use TOTP? That can be done with a browser extension as well. > My bank used a smart phone for 2fa, no text or card reader options available. That sounds rather exceptional, which bank is this? I know one of the twelve or so Dutch banks does this (Bunq, a newcomer), but if any of the larger ones would drop non-smartphone authentication it would run into political trouble.
- wolfgke 7y ago
  > My bank used a smart phone for 2fa, no text or card reader options available. Switch your bank.
  - tortasaur 7y ago
    Why? TOTP is the one form of 2FA I would want to be the only option, were I limited to one.