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Maybe now people will stop using social media. Ah, wait, no. Everything in the name of convenience.
by edejong 7y ago
Maybe now people will stop using social media. Ah, wait, no. Everything in the name of convenience.
- SenHeng 7y agoImmigration will likely think you're lying if you say you don't use any form of social media.
- Mirioron 7y agoI find this to be equally as frustrating. If I don't use social media then I don't use social media.
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoMaybe, but if you claim just WeChat, they will probably give up since they don’t Chinese.
- SenHeng 7y agoYou think they have someone that reads Arabic on site? They probably use some kind of translation service.
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoIn real time? Maybe. But their tools are probably all geared towards western services like Facebook.
- benj111 7y agoReally? "the US is a goat" Could reasonably be an insult or a compliment, an automated tool wouldn't be able to say which. Or by translation service, do you mean a person.
- mcv 7y agoYou can create new social media accounts that only follow your mom, dad and the president. Switch back to the real accounts once you're safe.
- jeena 7y agoWhat if your mom is a outspoken communist?
- throwaway66666 7y agoThen sadly they probably know who you are already.
- mcv 7y agoThen you need to turn her in to the authorities for disloyalty, of course.
- Sharlin 7y agoI'll rather not visit the US, thank you very much.
- megaremote 7y agoShame, it is a wonderful place with wonderful people in it. So is Canada, who gave me grief last time I went there. Still worth it.
- gambiting 7y agoNothing in there can be worth being treated like a criminal, possibly detained for hours, and then being told by someone on a power trip that they don't like your social media so you're going to be sent back and potentially banned forever. Yes I'd love to visit American national parks, but I think I'll manage, there's pleny of beautiful nature in other places too.
- tjoff 7y agoAs much as I despise facebook et al surely this problem lies completely with the over-reach of customs. If anything the solution is to boycott the US. This is ludicrous.
- edejong 7y agoWith great power lies great responsibility. People give great power by using centralized social media from a single nation without fully understanding the implications of it.
- viraptor 7y ago> centralized social media from a single nation Does this matter? Would it make any difference if the same message was spotted on a self-hosted out-of-us mastodon instance?
- edejong 7y agoYes, it certainly does, for a variety of reasons. First of all, it is much easier and cost-effective to gain full knowledge of the graph data in a centralized system. Instead, by working on a distributed system, we could change the protocol to increase the effort needed to mine data. Second of all, we gain the opportunity to know who or what has requested our data. We can decide to block these requests if they are used against us. Lastly, we can distribute the available power of information over multiple nations. When policies change, data (and information) can flow to places where these policies have no effect.
- viraptor 7y ago> much easier and cost-effective to gain full knowledge of the graph data in a centralized system At least right now, that's not true. It's harder to automatically scrape Facebook than a random decentralised system - mainly because decentralised systems need to have the data sharing built in to work. Sharing the data in a structured way is the central idea behind them. > We can decide to block these requests if they are used against us. You're not going to be able to block this access from gov only. If known networks become blocked, new gateways can be obtained for less money than is worth mentioning. > When policies change, data (and information) can flow to places where these policies have no effect. Again, if you're interested in anything resembling a social network, you'll need to share your data with a lot of people. Unless you want to keep it all private - you can do the same thing on FB currently, and border control will not have access to it.
- olivierlacan 7y agoHow is this the conclusion you're reaching first? Does the unbelievable invasion of privacy and infringement on freedom of speech not raise your ire first and foremost? Can you imagine being denied the right to travel or to temporarily relocate for school or work in a theoretically democratic country only to be denied entry because you or your friends expressed a personal, private, inconsequential and most likely fleeting opinion in the past?
- paggle 7y agoTheoretically democratic? Protections against democracy are one of the only reasons that the US still allows unskilled immigrants at all. The majority of the US population would overwhelmingly support the visa denial of a brown-skinned Muslim-sounding guy whose Facebook friends had posted suspect content.
- edejong 7y agoYour freedom is primarily based on the amount of power you decide to give to others. Due to social media, a tremendous asymmetry of power has been created in the hands of a few. This power is made visible in areas that are slightly outside of normal jurisdiction, such as at US border control. Our normal tendency is to want to regulate, but this can only be done to a limited extend. Too much regulation can stifle innovation or place too much power in the hands of the regulators. I'm not arguing against regulation. I am arguing that we should understand that our social media use (among others) comes at a very high cost to our freedoms. Proportional use, (proportional to our ability to regulate or our willingness to provide asymmetric information power) is warranted.
- nraynaud 7y agoThey search your private discussions. A CBP agent read my skype discussions then called my girlfriend at work to ask where she sees our relationship going. Those people have absolutely no ethics, moral limit nor legal limits, they just hate foreigners and want them out.
- maze-le 7y agoDid you have to give you password or your device? I am just wondering how they got access to your skype account.