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100% yes. If it's not ad sales or search - I don't trust Google enough to base long term projects on it. _Maybe_ add gmail to that, perhaps. Possibly Suite (si

100% yes. If it's not ad sales or search - I don't trust Google enough to base long term projects on it. _Maybe_ add gmail to that, perhaps. Possibly Suite (since at least they charge for it). For me at least, Google Cloud is still not quite emerged from "interesting, but not sure it'll be around long term yet" status. I'll use it as part of a multicloud architecture, or for prototypes/short-term projects. But I haven't yet been able to convince myself to recommend jumping both feet into a GoogleCloud-specific project architecture - in the same way I happily recommend/design/deploy AWS-specific projects all the time.

adventured 7y ago
YouTube is of course obviously safe. Google Cloud as a whole is also safe. It's the individual given products you have to worry about disappearing. It's already a very large business. Even in third place it's going to be at least a $15-$20 billion business over time. They're not shutting that down. https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-arr-earnings-8-billion-2019-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-arr-earnings-8-...
- iamsb 7y ago
  Given the speed with which youtube is demonetizing people or outright banning them, not sure how much longer it will sustain though.
  - bigiain 7y ago
    To be fair though, it's validly arguable that at least some of the people and content they're demonetising and banning are the very far end of the trashfire bellcurve, and that YouTube is nett better without them.
  - dillondoyle 7y ago
    This argument doesn't hold weight for me. Google demonetizes because advertisers don't want their ads on that content - and that is true no matter what platform.
    - iamsb 7y ago
      To some extent, yes. But see this comment -> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20818621 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20818621 There are plenty of examples like this. Google's problem is not that it is cracking down on bad actors. The problem is, it does not have a human interface. So once you are part of type-1 error set, you have very little way out. Once there is sufficient number of such people, who have critical mass for a competing service. And honestly, I am really glad that google products are dying. I switched to DDG 6 months ago, Firefox 1.5 years ago and I dont miss either of the products. Hopefully big tech monopolies will start crumbling one way or the other.
  - C1sc0cat 7y ago
    I was watching a YouTube channel that that reviews mics and audio gear last night and they had had videos de monetised because of reviews of "shotgun mics"
    - dhimes 7y ago
      Holy fuck! So their shutdown/demonetizing is being done by robots? They are automating the process of taking away peoples' way of earning a living? That is awful.
      - bigiain 7y ago
        Isn't this how google does _everything_??? (Or at least aims to...)
- zonidjan 7y ago
  I wouldn't be so sure about YouTube being safe.
eindiran 7y ago
After having the Inbox rug swept out from underneath my feet, I don't have a lot of trust about Gmail either.
- creato 7y ago
  Inbox was just a different skin/front end for gmail though, they aren't really comparable. I was annoyed about Inbox coming and going too, but that was a totally different thing than if gmail itself were to go away.

adventured 7y ago

YouTube is of course obviously safe. Google Cloud as a whole is also safe. It's the individual given products you have to worry about disappearing. It's already a very large business. Even in third place it's going to be at least a $15-$20 billion business over time. They're not shutting that down. https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-arr-earnings-8-billion-2019-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-arr-earnings-8-...

iamsb 7y ago
Given the speed with which youtube is demonetizing people or outright banning them, not sure how much longer it will sustain though.
- bigiain 7y ago
  To be fair though, it's validly arguable that at least some of the people and content they're demonetising and banning are the very far end of the trashfire bellcurve, and that YouTube is nett better without them.
- dillondoyle 7y ago
  This argument doesn't hold weight for me. Google demonetizes because advertisers don't want their ads on that content - and that is true no matter what platform.
  - iamsb 7y ago
    To some extent, yes. But see this comment -> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20818621 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20818621 There are plenty of examples like this. Google's problem is not that it is cracking down on bad actors. The problem is, it does not have a human interface. So once you are part of type-1 error set, you have very little way out. Once there is sufficient number of such people, who have critical mass for a competing service. And honestly, I am really glad that google products are dying. I switched to DDG 6 months ago, Firefox 1.5 years ago and I dont miss either of the products. Hopefully big tech monopolies will start crumbling one way or the other.
- C1sc0cat 7y ago
  I was watching a YouTube channel that that reviews mics and audio gear last night and they had had videos de monetised because of reviews of "shotgun mics"
  - dhimes 7y ago
    Holy fuck! So their shutdown/demonetizing is being done by robots? They are automating the process of taking away peoples' way of earning a living? That is awful.
    - bigiain 7y ago
      Isn't this how google does _everything_??? (Or at least aims to...)
zonidjan 7y ago
I wouldn't be so sure about YouTube being safe.

eindiran 7y ago

After having the Inbox rug swept out from underneath my feet, I don't have a lot of trust about Gmail either.

creato 7y ago
Inbox was just a different skin/front end for gmail though, they aren't really comparable. I was annoyed about Inbox coming and going too, but that was a totally different thing than if gmail itself were to go away.