4 ms·
The USPS has been getting money from taxes to offset the debt they run each year. For many years now they have been in the red. Fortune wrote about it back in
by mfer 7y ago
The USPS has been getting money from taxes to offset the debt they run each year. For many years now they have been in the red.
Fortune wrote about it back in 2015[1] and you can read the 2018 financial results[2].
Some tax money goes to the USPS.
[1] https://fortune.com/2015/03/27/us-postal-service/ https://fortune.com/2015/03/27/us-postal-service/
[2] https://about.usps.com/news/national-releases/2018/pr18_093.htm https://about.usps.com/news/national-releases/2018/pr18_093....
- ceejayoz 7y agoThat first article is severely stretching the definition of "getting money". Virtually all of the alleged $18B is attributed to the law that gives the USPS jurisdiction over your mailbox. The second just reflects Congress's attempts to deliberately hobble the USPS in 2006 by requiring them to suddenly pre-fund their pension obligations. https://www.uspsoig.gov/blog/be-careful-what-you-assume https://www.uspsoig.gov/blog/be-careful-what-you-assume https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-04-04/congress-not-amazon-messed-up-the-u-s-postal-service https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-04-04/congre... > The law requires the Postal Service, which receives no taxpayer subsidies, to prefund its retirees' health benefits up to the year 2056. This is a $5 billion per year cost; it is a requirement that no other entity, private or public, has to make.
- reallydude 7y ago> hobble the USPS in 2006 by requiring them to suddenly pre-fund their pension obligations Maybe it's a flawed methodology (arguable), but being fiscally responsible about pensions is something that should be encouraged. In California pension liabilities are out of control and at impractical levels, causing all sorts of havoc and manipulation (corruption). https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2018/12/07/governor-jerry-brown-gavin-newsom-california-state-government-pension-reform-supreme-court-benefits/2232837002/ https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2018/12/07/governor-jerry-...
- ceejayoz 7y agoIf fiscal responsibility were the goal, they'd have required the other federal agencies to do the same. That this specifically targets one of the few agencies ripe for potential privatization is... suspicious. Even if it made fiscal sense, the sudden switch is problematic.
- reallydude 7y ago> If fiscal responsibility were the goal, they'd have required the other federal agencies to do the same That's not how the Federal government works. It's a LARGE organization that sometimes have people with philosophies align. There is no chance that the military would prefund pensions. I think that, toward the initiative to make the USPS free of subsidy now and in the future, it made perfect sense. The USPS workers used to talk about everything moving electronic, but that's not happening in our lifetime. 50 years is just "the near future", respectively.
- ceejayoz 7y agoOK, let's reword that a bit. Why didn't the same Congressional Republicans who pushed through the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 push for similar changes to how other federal agencies fund their pensions? Why won't the military pre-fund pensions? Why shouldn't they do the same "fiscally responsible" thing for veterans benefits?
- reallydude 7y ago> Why didn't the same Congressional Republicans who pushed through the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 push for similar changes to how other federal agencies fund their pensions? I don't know. Probably something to do with the majority of the US population liking the USPS but not everyone wanting more military spending. > Why shouldn't they do the same "fiscally responsible" thing for veterans benefits? Probably because congress would never approve another 20%+ on top of the current military spending and still get all their pork in. These topics are an amalgam of political decisions as well as leadership decisions. I vote for more accountability, reliability and term limits in government. That's rarely a topic from either major party.
- freehunter 7y agoTo offset the debt that Congress has forced on them by requiring them to pre-fund pensions and healthcare cost for employees who don't exist yet. And Congress sets postage rates as well, so USPS can't raise rates in order to pay down their congressionally-mandated debt without getting approval from Congress. And the requests to raise rates are often denied.
- Scoundreller 7y agoCongress sets domestic letter mail rates. Everything else is a free-for-all. I’m sure Amazon’s direct delivery system also stuck a knife in USPS.