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> it might get a lot more difficult for people who suffer from pain that needs opioids to actually get them I've had severe chronic pain for over a decade from
by droithomme 7y ago
> it might get a lot more difficult for people who suffer from pain that needs opioids to actually get them
I've had severe chronic pain for over a decade from an auto accident. It's well documented as are the injuries. I've never been offered opioids and have been told by multiple doctors that surgery would be pointless and counterproductive. If I was offered opioids I'd turn them down since I understand the potential for abuse.
However it would have been nice to be asked. Fact is no doctor I've seen will prescribe them to any other than people with stage 4 cancer, people actually in the hospital following surgery, or the like.
Yet every two bit junkie creep and criminal in the area has an unending forever supply that originated in legal sources made by reputable pharma corps and sold by honest pharmacists having received a legit script.
How is this? Pain clinics. Pain clinics are prescribing these things. Not regular doctors who for over a decade have been scared to hell of prescribing them no matter how bad off a legit patient is.
So will it "get a lot more difficult for people who suffer from pain that needs opioids to actually get them"? I say no, because those people aren't getting them right now anyone. Excepting cancer, people in the hospital, and some other specific cases.
But it's OK. Because those of us with severe incurable chronic pain need to just learn to live with it. Opioids provide short term cures, rapidly develop tolerance and addiction. They are not good choices for chronic pain. Nor is anything else apparently. The field of medicine is in the medieval period, as far as how most people experience it. Propaganda about genetic cures and Star Trek like technology is fiction, mostly pushed by lying companies and speculators.
Most cancers your choice is to die without treatment since your insurance if you have it isn't going to pay for much and you'll go bankrupt on the copays. Then you die same date as you would have otherwise, probably earlier because the therapy weakens you and makes you sick and miserable. You'll also experience utter misery and horror during your last few months. Choosing to reject modern medical miracles is the best choice for most people with serious problems. Or go after stuff that at least does no physical harm, like alternative treatments, faith healing, or other quakery that's at least cheaper and less miserable. Yet the medical field peddles false hope to the overwhelming majority of people with this problem. Same goes for chronic pain. Surgery will make you worse and pills will ruin your health and may turn you into a criminal addict. Mountebanks selling such false hope really are dealers in misery and horror.
- 01100011 7y agoNot just pain clinics. I went to an ortho for a bad shoulder. The doc offered them to me without asking. Granted, I did mention I can't take NSAIDs due to a bad stomach, but the pain is nowhere near the level that I'd require opioids. This happened about 2 months ago, so it's still easy to get them. Truth be told, poppies are easy to grow. If I really wanted opioids I'd just grow them again. Yeah, it's not Oxy, but it does the job.
- droithomme 7y ago> If I really wanted opioids I'd just grow [poppies] again. Did you use your poppies to make laudanum? That seems the most straightforward. If you did, was it addictive at all? Side effects, problems? Did you develop tolerance?
- 01100011 7y agoNah, just mixed the latex with baby aspirin and chased the dragon. I got to find out who my opiate addicted friends were when I did that, because they kept asking me about my garden for years after sharing the results with them. I thought it was OK, not amazing, but it definitely worked. I grew them accidentally after trying to compost some unused poppy seeds I bought at the grocery store.
- decebalus1 7y agoHmm... this is contrary to my experience (US). For every single thing that was a surgery (including tooth extractions) in the past decade, I got a shitload of opioid painkillers just by default. At least 30 pills for each intervention. I believe I was lucky because after the first surgery I had, the doctor gave me the prescription, but off the record told me that he's doing that only because of hospital protocol and I should not take the pills. He told me to my face to not fill the prescription. Because of that (which was my first run-in with pain management) I never touched opioids. In my experience, the worst offenders have been the dentists. Now I do believe there are legitimate uses for this type of medication but honestly prescribing me 20-30 vicodins for a tooth extraction is a bit overkill.