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Do you have any statistics to back that up (violence rate)? I don’t feel like anecdotes make for good conversation here.
by taurath 7y ago
Do you have any statistics to back that up (violence rate)? I don’t feel like anecdotes make for good conversation here.
- allana 7y agoThey don't have statistics to back their position, this attitude of not working from the data we have is such an issue that it has become local satire in Seattle: http://theneedling.com/2019/02/05/magnolia-named-worlds-most-dangerous-neighborhood-by-magnolia/ http://theneedling.com/2019/02/05/magnolia-named-worlds-most...
- ChuckMcM 7y agoI like The Needling's tag line, Seattle's only Real Fake News.
- allana 7y agoThey produce some great articles :3
- sukilot 7y ago> is such an issue The needling is also not working from data...
- ndarwincorn 7y agoThe article is satirizing sentiment reflected in data gathered by Seattle U and reported on by the Seattle Times[1]. This was linked in that Needling article. [1] https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/mean-world-syndrome-in-some-seattle-neighborhoods-fear-of-crime-exceeds-reality/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/mean-world-sy...
- pnw_hazor 7y agoThe Seattle police hardly show up anymore unless there is an active shooter. No arrest, no statistics. When they do arrest someone, the city and county prosecutors often refuse to press charges. No charge, no statistics.
- tjr225 7y agoYeah I mean, without statistics his anecdotes are meaningless. It's a common thing to complain here in Seattle, but having lived in the Midwest for most of my life I know what true violence looks like and feels like. I don't hear guns every night like I did in KC. There aren't 600 murders a year like in Chicago. I'm not saying Seattle is perfect but I've never felt safer. And I live in the Central District, which is one of the more violent neighborhoods.
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoIt wasn’t this bad in the 90s or 80s, when crime was higher everywhere else. Relatively speaking, Seattle is worse off than it was before, which is a bit sad for the non transplants.
- throwawaysea 7y agoExactly this. Transplants are part of the problem though - they’ve brought their political culture/voting habits/policies with them, and are ruining a formerly effectively managed city without asking why it was attractive to move here in the first place.
- ndarwincorn 7y agoPlease go ask the lifers at the May Day riots how they feel about the effective management of the city before all these darn transplants showed up.
- taurath 7y agoEvery stat on violent crime I’ve seen is that the 80s were a peak tho?
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoThe homeless problem wasn’t as large in the 80s, violent crime was maybe higher, but property crime seems to have been lower. I worked at 3rd and pine McDonald’s in 94-95 (one of the main hangouts for Seattle’s homeless population back then), and downtown was a lot more sane back then. The policing was much more aggressive than it is today, which I think had a large part to do with that.
- dymk 7y agoDo you need statistics to tell you that it's wrong to not prosecute violent repeat offenders?
- taurath 7y agoGimme the details then? How did it happen? What was the justification if any? Did it actually happen?
- mieseratte 7y agoFrom another comment: https://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Charge-Man-attempted-to-throw-woman-off-I-5-13701108.php https://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Charge-Man-att...