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My explanation is you are just wrong about all of those things. A firm that let people go without severance would be considered extremely unprofessional in prof

My explanation is you are just wrong about all of those things. A firm that let people go without severance would be considered extremely unprofessional in professional contexts. Talking about how much you get paid is not only normal it’s protected by law and you should definitely be doing both legal and financial research on any perspective employers.

kerkeslager 7y ago
> A firm that let people go without severance would be considered extremely unprofessional in professional contexts. Not everyone works at "firms": this is extremely common in food service, for example. > Talking about how much you get paid is not only normal it’s protected by law Citation? I've worked at least one place where it was explicitly against the rules to share what you were paid with your coworkers (although this was years ago--I'd be happy to hear if the situation has changed). > you should definitely be doing both legal and financial research on any perspective employers. Obviously, but you simply don't have the same tools to do that. Have you tried asking employers for references?
- vonmoltke 7y ago
  Discussion of pay (and other workplace issues) is a "protected concerted activity" under the National Labor Relations Act, even when it happens outside the context of a union: https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/rights/employee-rights https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/rights/employee-right... The NLRB has taken action against companies that have attempted to use such handbook policies against workers: https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/enforcement-activity/protected-concerted-activity https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/enforcement-activity/... (click the pin on Missouri, it isn't direct-linkable :()
  - kerkeslager 7y ago
    Interesting, I'm glad to be wrong on that one. I guess that means my previous employer just had some unenforceable policies (not too surprising).
    - monocasa 7y ago
      It's worse than an unenforceable policy, it's an explicit violation of the law for which they can (and should) be sued over.
- kasey_junk 7y ago
  It is not a norm for non-professionals to provide 2 weeks notice. Leaving a good service job without providing notice will have no ramifications on your food service worker reputation. I routinely ask my perspective boss for references. I also routinely ask for financial data before accepting a job. It has never caused even an eyebrow to be raised.

kerkeslager 7y ago

> A firm that let people go without severance would be considered extremely unprofessional in professional contexts. Not everyone works at "firms": this is extremely common in food service, for example. > Talking about how much you get paid is not only normal it’s protected by law Citation? I've worked at least one place where it was explicitly against the rules to share what you were paid with your coworkers (although this was years ago--I'd be happy to hear if the situation has changed). > you should definitely be doing both legal and financial research on any perspective employers. Obviously, but you simply don't have the same tools to do that. Have you tried asking employers for references?

vonmoltke 7y ago
Discussion of pay (and other workplace issues) is a "protected concerted activity" under the National Labor Relations Act, even when it happens outside the context of a union: https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/rights/employee-rights https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/rights/employee-right... The NLRB has taken action against companies that have attempted to use such handbook policies against workers: https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/enforcement-activity/protected-concerted-activity https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/enforcement-activity/... (click the pin on Missouri, it isn't direct-linkable :()
- kerkeslager 7y ago
  Interesting, I'm glad to be wrong on that one. I guess that means my previous employer just had some unenforceable policies (not too surprising).
  - monocasa 7y ago
    It's worse than an unenforceable policy, it's an explicit violation of the law for which they can (and should) be sued over.
kasey_junk 7y ago
It is not a norm for non-professionals to provide 2 weeks notice. Leaving a good service job without providing notice will have no ramifications on your food service worker reputation. I routinely ask my perspective boss for references. I also routinely ask for financial data before accepting a job. It has never caused even an eyebrow to be raised.