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When the fake news is generated and controlled by a government entity, I think the better term is "propaganda".

guerrilla 7y ago
It seems unreasonable to restrict the term propaganda to government since any organization can produce propaganda, i.e. "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view."
- brightball 7y ago
  If it's not from the government, we call it marketing. :-)
  - guerrilla 7y ago
    This is incorrect. Marketing is not necessarily used to promote political change. There are plenty of examples of propaganda in for-proft and non-profit (yet non-state) media which is clearly propaganda and not marketing simultaneously.
    - smt88 7y ago
      When Trump sells MAGA hats, it is both marketing and a tool for political change. Musk selling electric cars can also fall under both categories. People with electric cars are more likely to support policies that make it easier to own electric cars and less likely to care about fossil fuels.
    - Jedi72 7y ago
      Best example of Market-ganda ever, marketers protecting their own. 6 names for the same idea - manipulating others for self-gain.
    - chrischen 7y ago
      Tell that to the political facebook ad companies.
  - umvi 7y ago
    Unless it's from a media outlet in which case we call it "agenda"
    - guerrilla 7y ago
      Nah, it's still called propaganda. The agenda is what is promoted, not the product nor technique of the promotion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_through_media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_through_media
- dionian 7y ago
  Also wrong to call only negative things propaganda
  - guerrilla 7y ago
    Good catch.
samstave 7y ago
If you havent already, watch the two following Documentaries: "Century of Self" https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/ https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/ --- "Human Resources" https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-resources/ https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-resources/ ---

It seems unreasonable to restrict the term propaganda to government since any organization can produce propaganda, i.e. "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view."

brightball 7y ago
If it's not from the government, we call it marketing. :-)
- guerrilla 7y ago
  This is incorrect. Marketing is not necessarily used to promote political change. There are plenty of examples of propaganda in for-proft and non-profit (yet non-state) media which is clearly propaganda and not marketing simultaneously.
  - smt88 7y ago
    When Trump sells MAGA hats, it is both marketing and a tool for political change. Musk selling electric cars can also fall under both categories. People with electric cars are more likely to support policies that make it easier to own electric cars and less likely to care about fossil fuels.
  - Jedi72 7y ago
    Best example of Market-ganda ever, marketers protecting their own. 6 names for the same idea - manipulating others for self-gain.
  - chrischen 7y ago
    Tell that to the political facebook ad companies.
- umvi 7y ago
  Unless it's from a media outlet in which case we call it "agenda"
  - guerrilla 7y ago
    Nah, it's still called propaganda. The agenda is what is promoted, not the product nor technique of the promotion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_through_media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_through_media
dionian 7y ago
Also wrong to call only negative things propaganda
- guerrilla 7y ago
  Good catch.

samstave 7y ago

If you havent already, watch the two following Documentaries: "Century of Self" https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/ https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/ --- "Human Resources" https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-resources/ https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-resources/ ---