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They use Techno Phones [0]. It's really the leading telephone in my country back in Africa to the point my wife refused me to buy her a Samsung one. :D You fin

They use Techno Phones [0]. It's really the leading telephone in my country back in Africa to the point my wife refused me to buy her a Samsung one. :D You find those phone have really nice camera, and most importantly power consumption that can span at least 2 days... Peoples complaining that China is just copycat-ing stuff do not know how China is influencing peoples in developing countries. [0]: https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/07/africas-top-mobile-phone-seller-transsion-to-list-in-chinese-ipo/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/07/africas-top-mobile-phone-s...

lonelappde 7y ago
China is well famous for its hardware remix culture. They get a bad reputation for copying unique inventions without regard for IP agreements and foreigner expectations.
nexuist 7y ago
>Peoples complaining that China is just copycat-ing stuff do not know how China is influencing peoples in developing countries. The problem is that altruism does not exist in geopolitics. Why is China influencing these people? Because it wants their support when it comes time to ask for favors. China is using Western inventions to grow its sphere of influence and defeat Western influence (and thus Western values, culture, etc) Not that the West is entirely innocent in its quest for power either, but considering the dystopian state of Chinese government (compared to Western governments, at least), it is perhaps better to keep the devil you know in charge than the one that wants to know you much better.
- sangnoir 7y ago
  > Not that the West is entirely innocent in its quest for power either You don't say - most of Africa got a taste of Western "values" and "culture". The last generation that suffered from colonial rule is still living.
  - ASalazarMX 7y ago
    Ow. Even I felt that.
  - poiuyt098 7y ago
    do you believe africa was some peaceful wakanda-like utopia before europeans arrived? arabs got there first anyway.
    - Infinitesimus 7y ago
      Certainly not. Just like every place on earth, Africa had its share of problems. But that didn't warrant the damage slavery and colonialism did - the effects of which are still rippling through the very fabric of the continent today.
    - krageon 7y ago
      You are responding to a case that has not been made. Furthermore, you are responding to that fictitious case without solid reasoning or good sourcing. It would be nice if you could provide that.
  - tastygreenapple 7y ago
    Well, this is going to give the potential to collect an interesting data point, among Africans who have experienced European and Chinese colonization, which do they prefer? For what it's worth, some Africans think their life was better under European rule: https://rense.com/general32/aaprh.htm https://rense.com/general32/aaprh.htm
- rolltiide 7y ago
  > The problem is that altruism does not exist in geopolitics. Why is China influencing these people? Because it wants their support when it comes time to ask for favors. But more likely an entrepreneur sent a schematic to a fabrication line in Shenzhen for an underserved market they perceived, got a ton of the phones made for very cheap, and sold them as a service in that underserved market and it became a hit.
- fredmorcos 7y ago
  > considering the dystopian state of Chinese government (compared to Western governments, at least) Would you trust a sheep in wolf's clothing or a wolf in wolf's clothing more? Western culture and ideals are nothing more than a facade.
- dingoegret 7y ago
  Given the sheer amount of innovation and R&D Asian countries have contributed to modern technology and especially phones, it's really myopic to say "western inventions". Even a cursory look into the volume of white papers and research literature today is saturated with Asian, Iranian, Arabic and South American names. The idea of western inventions is an outdated myth.
- weq 7y ago
  Africa is ripe for the picking, it just needs infrastructure to get the resources back to China. American tech companies dont target Africa because there is no money for them. China works on different economic principles. State backed companies dont just want profit. They want to your know dirty secrets. They want leverage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative
- ijidak 7y ago
  > Not that the West is entirely innocent in its quest for power either My father grew up in Nigeria under Colonial Britain. My Dad, and most Nigerians, do not have fond memories of British rule. Nor do they have fond memories of western meddling afterward. I don't think the African people really have a positive view of any form of government local or foreign. Most influences, internal and external, have been deeply motivated by exploitation. The truth is, this ancient proverb from the Bible sums up ALL human ridership: "man has dominated man to his harm"

lonelappde 7y ago

China is well famous for its hardware remix culture. They get a bad reputation for copying unique inventions without regard for IP agreements and foreigner expectations.

nexuist 7y ago

>Peoples complaining that China is just copycat-ing stuff do not know how China is influencing peoples in developing countries. The problem is that altruism does not exist in geopolitics. Why is China influencing these people? Because it wants their support when it comes time to ask for favors. China is using Western inventions to grow its sphere of influence and defeat Western influence (and thus Western values, culture, etc) Not that the West is entirely innocent in its quest for power either, but considering the dystopian state of Chinese government (compared to Western governments, at least), it is perhaps better to keep the devil you know in charge than the one that wants to know you much better.

sangnoir 7y ago
> Not that the West is entirely innocent in its quest for power either You don't say - most of Africa got a taste of Western "values" and "culture". The last generation that suffered from colonial rule is still living.
- ASalazarMX 7y ago
  Ow. Even I felt that.
- poiuyt098 7y ago
  do you believe africa was some peaceful wakanda-like utopia before europeans arrived? arabs got there first anyway.
  - Infinitesimus 7y ago
    Certainly not. Just like every place on earth, Africa had its share of problems. But that didn't warrant the damage slavery and colonialism did - the effects of which are still rippling through the very fabric of the continent today.
  - krageon 7y ago
    You are responding to a case that has not been made. Furthermore, you are responding to that fictitious case without solid reasoning or good sourcing. It would be nice if you could provide that.
- tastygreenapple 7y ago
  Well, this is going to give the potential to collect an interesting data point, among Africans who have experienced European and Chinese colonization, which do they prefer? For what it's worth, some Africans think their life was better under European rule: https://rense.com/general32/aaprh.htm https://rense.com/general32/aaprh.htm
rolltiide 7y ago
> The problem is that altruism does not exist in geopolitics. Why is China influencing these people? Because it wants their support when it comes time to ask for favors. But more likely an entrepreneur sent a schematic to a fabrication line in Shenzhen for an underserved market they perceived, got a ton of the phones made for very cheap, and sold them as a service in that underserved market and it became a hit.
fredmorcos 7y ago
> considering the dystopian state of Chinese government (compared to Western governments, at least) Would you trust a sheep in wolf's clothing or a wolf in wolf's clothing more? Western culture and ideals are nothing more than a facade.
dingoegret 7y ago
Given the sheer amount of innovation and R&D Asian countries have contributed to modern technology and especially phones, it's really myopic to say "western inventions". Even a cursory look into the volume of white papers and research literature today is saturated with Asian, Iranian, Arabic and South American names. The idea of western inventions is an outdated myth.
weq 7y ago
Africa is ripe for the picking, it just needs infrastructure to get the resources back to China. American tech companies dont target Africa because there is no money for them. China works on different economic principles. State backed companies dont just want profit. They want to your know dirty secrets. They want leverage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative
ijidak 7y ago
> Not that the West is entirely innocent in its quest for power either My father grew up in Nigeria under Colonial Britain. My Dad, and most Nigerians, do not have fond memories of British rule. Nor do they have fond memories of western meddling afterward. I don't think the African people really have a positive view of any form of government local or foreign. Most influences, internal and external, have been deeply motivated by exploitation. The truth is, this ancient proverb from the Bible sums up ALL human ridership: "man has dominated man to his harm"