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> The West Coast has seen a huge influx of homeless people Your source shows an INCREASE of homeless people, but not necessarily an INFLUX, i.e. it's not clear

> The West Coast has seen a huge influx of homeless people Your source shows an INCREASE of homeless people, but not necessarily an INFLUX, i.e. it's not clear whether the newly homeless are in fact "arriving" (from out of state) or have been prior residents who lost their shelter. Anecdotally, I don't think I've ever met somebody who had a PLAN to move to California to be homeless there. But I've met a number of people who moved to California with limited financial resources and precarious employment prospects, and subsequently became homeless.

oceanghost 7y ago
Actually, rehab's are importing the homeless into California. John Oliver did a show on it. https://www.ocregister.com/2017/12/17/are-drug-rehab-centers-fueling-homelessness-in-southern-california/ https://www.ocregister.com/2017/12/17/are-drug-rehab-centers...
licyeus 7y ago
The LA homeless survey does track where people lived when they became homeless. In 2019, the number who became homeless outside of CA is 20% [1]. AFAIK, they don't release raw data so we can segment by newly homeless, but in 2018, this same figure was 14% [2]. Seattle / King County's survey asks a similar question and it's just 5% [3]. Conservative media up here likes to claim that homeless immigration is a significant problem (it isn't), but it seems like LA is facing a different challenge. 1 - https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=3437-2019-greater-los-angeles-homeless-count-presentation.pdf https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=3437-2019-greater-los-ang... 2 - https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=2059-2018-greater-los-angeles-homeless-count-presentation.pdf https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=2059-2018-greater-los-ang... 3 - http://allhomekc.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Updated-7.11-King-County-Report.pdf http://allhomekc.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Updated-7.11...
- seanmcdirmid 7y ago
  The Seattle king county survey also found out that 80% of those homeless lived in pioneer square before becoming homeless. Definitely fishy if you know the city.
  - licyeus 7y ago
    AFAIK, the Seattle / King County survey did not ask which neighborhood or zip code they lived in. The questions are listed on the survey PDF I linked earlier. Do you have a source? Closest I can find is from 2016, and it's 25% of in-county zip codes equalling Pioneer Square, not 80% of all: "The records show that more than 8,000 clients [of any homeless/housing services tracked by All Home] listed their last ZIP code as 98104, which covers Pioneer Square and downtown. That’s about 25 percent of all clients who gave King County ZIP codes. Putnam says clients sometimes list ZIP codes for the shelters where they last stayed or the neighborhood where they’d been seeking services." https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/king-countys-homeless-are-overwhelmingly-from-here-service-providers-say/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/king-coun...
seanmcdirmid 7y ago
The west coast has always been a popular destination for people with big dreams but perhaps without much means. It isn’t really weird that homeless are just as likely to be transplants as non homeless residents.

oceanghost 7y ago

Actually, rehab's are importing the homeless into California. John Oliver did a show on it. https://www.ocregister.com/2017/12/17/are-drug-rehab-centers-fueling-homelessness-in-southern-california/ https://www.ocregister.com/2017/12/17/are-drug-rehab-centers...

licyeus 7y ago

The LA homeless survey does track where people lived when they became homeless. In 2019, the number who became homeless outside of CA is 20% [1]. AFAIK, they don't release raw data so we can segment by newly homeless, but in 2018, this same figure was 14% [2]. Seattle / King County's survey asks a similar question and it's just 5% [3]. Conservative media up here likes to claim that homeless immigration is a significant problem (it isn't), but it seems like LA is facing a different challenge. 1 - https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=3437-2019-greater-los-angeles-homeless-count-presentation.pdf https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=3437-2019-greater-los-ang... 2 - https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=2059-2018-greater-los-angeles-homeless-count-presentation.pdf https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=2059-2018-greater-los-ang... 3 - http://allhomekc.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Updated-7.11-King-County-Report.pdf http://allhomekc.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Updated-7.11...

seanmcdirmid 7y ago
The Seattle king county survey also found out that 80% of those homeless lived in pioneer square before becoming homeless. Definitely fishy if you know the city.
- licyeus 7y ago
  AFAIK, the Seattle / King County survey did not ask which neighborhood or zip code they lived in. The questions are listed on the survey PDF I linked earlier. Do you have a source? Closest I can find is from 2016, and it's 25% of in-county zip codes equalling Pioneer Square, not 80% of all: "The records show that more than 8,000 clients [of any homeless/housing services tracked by All Home] listed their last ZIP code as 98104, which covers Pioneer Square and downtown. That’s about 25 percent of all clients who gave King County ZIP codes. Putnam says clients sometimes list ZIP codes for the shelters where they last stayed or the neighborhood where they’d been seeking services." https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/king-countys-homeless-are-overwhelmingly-from-here-service-providers-say/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/king-coun...

seanmcdirmid 7y ago

The west coast has always been a popular destination for people with big dreams but perhaps without much means. It isn’t really weird that homeless are just as likely to be transplants as non homeless residents.