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More or less that. My Chinese friends discuss the politics openly, sometimes even on WeChat. As long as you don't do it over group chats or in public no one wo
by odiroot 7y ago
More or less that.
My Chinese friends discuss the politics openly, sometimes even on WeChat. As long as you don't do it over group chats or in public no one would bother you.
There was just this funny thing that the famous llama pic was automatically filtered even in 1-1 chats.
- kazen44 7y agothis is exactly what an oppressive government wants. as long as people are able to discuss politics with their friends, they have a outlet to vent without being able to actually form political resistance.
- Udik 7y agoIt's an interpretation, but not the most charitable one. Our idea of an oppressive autocratic government is more similar to that exemplified in Orwell's 1984- a government that prevents and punishes expression of dissenting ideas at any level, even the private one (you never know if the friend or person you're talking to could be a police informer). Another interpretation could be that China cares about, or simply consideres legitimate, the expression of dissent, but is terrified by the consequences of mass protest movements such as that of Tiananmen Square, preferring to maintain a rigid control on the direction and pace of change.
- rtkwe 7y ago> as long as people are able to discuss politics with their friends, they have a outlet to vent without being able to actually form political resistance. > Another interpretation could be that China cares about, or simply consideres legitimate, the expression of dissent, but is terrified by the consequences of mass protest movements such as that of Tiananmen Square, preferring to maintain a rigid control on the direction and pace of change. These statements are practically identical the only thing that changes is how charitably you're framing the suppression of political dissent and if you're viewing things from the POV of the political class or the regular people.
- spaceprison 7y agoThese sound like the same thing.
- anovikov 7y agoWhy people keep using the system that censors stuff? Why not just completely switch to something else? Or it will become impossible to analyze then cos they won't look "Chinese" then, so maybe they actually in fact do it, just keep posting on WeChat something meaningless to please the Party?
- tpolzer 7y agoAnything else that gets too popular will be aggressively blocked unless they comply with the censorship/give out logs.
- namelosw 7y agoExcept they can't, things like Instagram and WhatsApp are blocked and taken down from the AppStore. If there's new they would also be taken down. Any forums or messing app alike must do ISP registration from the government, the cloud provider has to make sure they can take down any website or web service on demand. Those websites without ISP registration has quite a change being blocked, and cannot use a lot of 3rd party integration like WeChat pay, etc.
- anovikov 7y agoBut i mean, do anyone seriously try to use non-VPNned Internet in China? Without obfuscation? Of course only way to meaningfully use anything would be through an obfuscator. I asked people there (Europeans though, not Chinese) and they all say ToR with obfs4 works just fine.
- odiroot 7y agoTheir families usually use WeChat because it's the only messenger that works inside China.