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Some of those protesters did beat up the guys from mainland included one reporter in the airport two days ago. [0] Besides, a Japanese reporter had his camera

Some of those protesters did beat up the guys from mainland included one reporter in the airport two days ago. [0] Besides, a Japanese reporter had his camera broken by some of them. He was also told that they wanted to be portrayed as victims to gain sympathy. [1] Last but not the least, some of the leaders of the protest is going to US/UK to study, I wonder what will happen when they leave. You can go hate the gov't as usual, that's fine but be careful what you are signing up for. We are in a multiverse of info wars. [0] https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3022782/global-times-journalist-beaten-hong-kong-protesters-given https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3022782... [1] https://gendai.ismedia.jp/articles/-/66271 https://gendai.ismedia.jp/articles/-/66271

SimbaOnSteroids 7y ago
It should be noted that there are almost certainly agent provocateurs embedded within the protestors. It would be unlikely that the CCP wouldn't take this step given their other overt displays of force and seeming giddiness to make an example of the protestors that they wouldn't take the extra step to make the protestors look as bad as possible.
- nobody0 7y ago
  When some of those protesters broke into the legislative council of HK, threw China' flags into the ocean, swung US/UK flags, beat up random drivers on the street. They don't need the CCP to make them look bad.
  - gwathk 7y ago
    How do these actions look bad to you, apart from "beat up random drivers"? And where you see the news of beating up random driver?
    - theseadroid 7y ago
      Does this action look bad to you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdxXCTpHARQ&list=LLFo7VgFlg9gZOsrDUio3sQw&index=2&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdxXCTpHARQ&list=LLFo7VgFlg9...
      - gwathk 7y ago
        It does. That's why a lot of Hong Kongers stopped him to do so.
- vadansky 7y ago
  That's a stretch, especially since it didn't happen in some isolated corner. They beat him up in front of a mass group of legitimate protesters who did not stop them. Even if the provocateurs are the ones who initiated the "legitimate" protesters are complicit too and probably joined in. I was in full support of the HK protesters, but not I'm worried they are turning into a dangerous mob.
  - Aeolun 7y ago
    I mean, what do you expect after 2 months of peaceful protests and no indication of any shift in policy? I’m just quoting here, but this has seemed incredibly appropriate to these protests: Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
b_tterc_p 7y ago
I think people overindex on this. It really isn’t surprising. People are protesting what they perceive as their government betraying them. That’s a huge claim and people are really angry. People are people. And angry people do angry things. If the government doesn’t cooperate with the people, they will get angrier and it will get worse. That is just what happens. The social contract takes both sides, and yes, it’s often random people who don’t deserve the fallout who get hurt as a result of not abiding by the social contract. But it’s extremely myopic to think that protestors are the ones accountable for all the trouble. To people not immediately affected by the governments decision, it is far too easy to miss the fact that it’s the government throwing not just the first punch but many many more before you see this kind of thing happen

SimbaOnSteroids 7y ago

It should be noted that there are almost certainly agent provocateurs embedded within the protestors. It would be unlikely that the CCP wouldn't take this step given their other overt displays of force and seeming giddiness to make an example of the protestors that they wouldn't take the extra step to make the protestors look as bad as possible.

nobody0 7y ago
When some of those protesters broke into the legislative council of HK, threw China' flags into the ocean, swung US/UK flags, beat up random drivers on the street. They don't need the CCP to make them look bad.
- gwathk 7y ago
  How do these actions look bad to you, apart from "beat up random drivers"? And where you see the news of beating up random driver?
  - theseadroid 7y ago
    Does this action look bad to you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdxXCTpHARQ&list=LLFo7VgFlg9gZOsrDUio3sQw&index=2&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdxXCTpHARQ&list=LLFo7VgFlg9...
    - gwathk 7y ago
      It does. That's why a lot of Hong Kongers stopped him to do so.
vadansky 7y ago
That's a stretch, especially since it didn't happen in some isolated corner. They beat him up in front of a mass group of legitimate protesters who did not stop them. Even if the provocateurs are the ones who initiated the "legitimate" protesters are complicit too and probably joined in. I was in full support of the HK protesters, but not I'm worried they are turning into a dangerous mob.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  I mean, what do you expect after 2 months of peaceful protests and no indication of any shift in policy? I’m just quoting here, but this has seemed incredibly appropriate to these protests: Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

b_tterc_p 7y ago

I think people overindex on this. It really isn’t surprising. People are protesting what they perceive as their government betraying them. That’s a huge claim and people are really angry. People are people. And angry people do angry things. If the government doesn’t cooperate with the people, they will get angrier and it will get worse. That is just what happens. The social contract takes both sides, and yes, it’s often random people who don’t deserve the fallout who get hurt as a result of not abiding by the social contract. But it’s extremely myopic to think that protestors are the ones accountable for all the trouble. To people not immediately affected by the governments decision, it is far too easy to miss the fact that it’s the government throwing not just the first punch but many many more before you see this kind of thing happen