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I think it would be amazing to see a co-working brand have locations absolutely everywhere, like 24 hour gyms. One price gets you into any of them and they're a

I think it would be amazing to see a co-working brand have locations absolutely everywhere, like 24 hour gyms. One price gets you into any of them and they're all the same. It would help with customer retention because they've already paid $300/mo to get in, so if they move or travel they're not paying someone else. They're sticking with you. I'm surprised WeWork locations are so few and far between, while Snap Fitness has a location on every other corner. There can't be that much more overhead to a co-working space versus a 24 hour fitness center.

hombre_fatal 7y ago
Everyone needs to exercise. WeWork appeals to a tiny fraction of the workforce.
- freehunter 7y ago
  >Everyone needs to exercise Yes, but not everyone does, and not everyone who has a Snap Fitness membership actually uses it. If that statement held true, Snap Fitness would have a US membership of ~330 million people.
  - hombre_fatal 7y ago
    Well, of course. But exercising can be marketing to everyone. Everyone is potentially in that target market. The same can't be said for WeWork. This is an obvious difference that answers the question to why you don't see WeWork everywhere you see gyms. Even my tiny hometown has a 24-hour fitness. Whether everyone uses their Snap Fitness membership is irrelevant, but notice how just about anyone can be guilted in to a gym membership.
ericabiz 7y ago
The Coworking Visa already allows this: http://coworking.com/visa http://coworking.com/visa As an added benefit, it's run by some of the people who were originally behind coworking, before WeWork came onto the scene.
mikeryan 7y ago
I'm surprised WeWork locations are so few and far between Where are you located? They have 562 locations, In many large cities, (SF, NYC, Phil - in Mexico City too) at least you can't go a more than a few blocks without getting a WeWork. Its pretty ubiquitous for me when I travel, but I've got a limited circle of cities I hit
- freehunter 7y ago
  I live in the Midwest. There are two locations in Detroit, 12 centered in downtown Chicago, and one in Columbus. That's it for the entire Midwest.
  - kasey_junk 7y ago
    They have Indianapolis, Minneapolis, St. Louis & Kansas City locations as well.
    - freehunter 7y ago
      St Louis and Indianapolis are listed on their website as "coming soon". That still leaves Madison and Milwaukee WI, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, and Lansing MI, Cincinnati, Akron, Cleveland, and Toledo OH, Louisville KY, Springfield IL, South Bend IN, I could keep going. All of those cities each have multiple co-working spaces so the market is there.
big_chungus 7y ago
It's not impossible, but I'm not sure a one-price-fits-all makes the most sense. Let's say I travel mostly in the mid-west. I go to lots of co-working spaces for my three-hundred-per-month. You, mean while, live in new england. You travel to lots of spaces, too. Here's the difference: it is significantly more expensive to operate a space in new england. Food is pricier, land is much pricier, the list goes on. For a unified price, I would 1. have to charge mid-westerners more and coastal customers less, and 2. Lose some money from mid-wester customers which could have been made from them. Better price discrimination -> better profits; businesses seek to do this every day with tiers, regional pricing, etc. Why would I throw all this away?
- votepaunchy 7y ago
  Gyms solved this problem with pricing tiers. Silver, gold, platinum, etc. You can only visit locations at or below your membership level.
  - SeeDave 7y ago
    That is a far more reputable industry than timeshares ;) I would propose Silver, Gold, Platinum plus optional drop-in rates of $x day, $x4 for a week, $x15 for a month such that $Gold - $Silver = $x*15
jedberg 7y ago
> I'm surprised WeWork locations are so few and far between, while Snap Fitness has a location on every other corner. There can't be that much more overhead to a co-working space versus a 24 hour fitness center. Different business models. The gym gets you to pay your monthly fee based mostly on the aspiration that you'll go to the gym. Most people would ditch their coworking subscription if they don't use it almost every day, since there are plenty of alternative options (unlike the gym, which is the only place to get that kind of equipment).
- fragmede 7y ago
  Are they so different though? There must be more than a few "wantrepreneurs" renting space from WeWork, and at the other end of the spectrum, Equinox and other high end gyms are a couple hundred dollars a month, and I'm sure they're underutilized by some members, same as a regular gym.
rhinoceraptor 7y ago
Gyms have many more members than capacity. They would have to dramatically raise the price if people actually used their memberships. OTOH co-working spaces likely have much higher utilization since pretty much everyone goes to work.
- hinkley 7y ago
  Not only that, for the people who do show, they are expected to be there less than 1/5th as long as a WeWork member would show up. So now you're well above an order of magnitude difference in occupancy rates.
  - johannes1234321 7y ago
    The 1/5th as long isn't as relevant as the peak - I guess gyms have a peak in the evening after working hours. Duringnthe peaknit doesn't matter if people stay half an hour or four hours ...
jngreenlee 7y ago
You're almost describing Regus Not 100%, but close.
jmhnilbog 7y ago
If only everything could be homogenous everywhere, so the very few people who have the opportunity to work wherever they like could avoid momentary inconveniences!
- freehunter 7y ago
  I'm not sure how that is a productive comment.
wodenokoto 7y ago
While not as prevalent as gyms, regus let’s users use all their locations. Regus is old school from before coworking space was a term. They call themselves an office hotel, if I remember correctly. But they do have an area with coffee and tables where you can plug in a computer and work.
- dwd 7y ago
  Was in a Regus office years back and you could pretty well book a desk/office for a day anywhere in the world - some of which are in pretty cool locations (if you're into architecture). https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x48761cad0a692943%3A0x80911db669889bbf!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMs-NK2HP814n9TLzWr26yMH_azdArO5FXahTi_%3Dw337-h160-k-no!5sregus%20the%20gherkin%20-%20Google%20Search!15sCAESAggH&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipMs-NK2HP814n9TLzWr26yMH_azdArO5FXahTi_&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiik8jDrIbkAhXLTX0KHeTqDEsQoiowCnoECA4QBg https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x48761cad0a69294...

hombre_fatal 7y ago

Everyone needs to exercise. WeWork appeals to a tiny fraction of the workforce.

freehunter 7y ago
>Everyone needs to exercise Yes, but not everyone does, and not everyone who has a Snap Fitness membership actually uses it. If that statement held true, Snap Fitness would have a US membership of ~330 million people.
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  Well, of course. But exercising can be marketing to everyone. Everyone is potentially in that target market. The same can't be said for WeWork. This is an obvious difference that answers the question to why you don't see WeWork everywhere you see gyms. Even my tiny hometown has a 24-hour fitness. Whether everyone uses their Snap Fitness membership is irrelevant, but notice how just about anyone can be guilted in to a gym membership.

ericabiz 7y ago

The Coworking Visa already allows this: http://coworking.com/visa http://coworking.com/visa As an added benefit, it's run by some of the people who were originally behind coworking, before WeWork came onto the scene.

mikeryan 7y ago

I'm surprised WeWork locations are so few and far between Where are you located? They have 562 locations, In many large cities, (SF, NYC, Phil - in Mexico City too) at least you can't go a more than a few blocks without getting a WeWork. Its pretty ubiquitous for me when I travel, but I've got a limited circle of cities I hit

freehunter 7y ago
I live in the Midwest. There are two locations in Detroit, 12 centered in downtown Chicago, and one in Columbus. That's it for the entire Midwest.
- kasey_junk 7y ago
  They have Indianapolis, Minneapolis, St. Louis & Kansas City locations as well.
  - freehunter 7y ago
    St Louis and Indianapolis are listed on their website as "coming soon". That still leaves Madison and Milwaukee WI, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, and Lansing MI, Cincinnati, Akron, Cleveland, and Toledo OH, Louisville KY, Springfield IL, South Bend IN, I could keep going. All of those cities each have multiple co-working spaces so the market is there.

big_chungus 7y ago

It's not impossible, but I'm not sure a one-price-fits-all makes the most sense. Let's say I travel mostly in the mid-west. I go to lots of co-working spaces for my three-hundred-per-month. You, mean while, live in new england. You travel to lots of spaces, too. Here's the difference: it is significantly more expensive to operate a space in new england. Food is pricier, land is much pricier, the list goes on. For a unified price, I would 1. have to charge mid-westerners more and coastal customers less, and 2. Lose some money from mid-wester customers which could have been made from them. Better price discrimination -> better profits; businesses seek to do this every day with tiers, regional pricing, etc. Why would I throw all this away?

votepaunchy 7y ago
Gyms solved this problem with pricing tiers. Silver, gold, platinum, etc. You can only visit locations at or below your membership level.
- SeeDave 7y ago
  That is a far more reputable industry than timeshares ;) I would propose Silver, Gold, Platinum plus optional drop-in rates of $x day, $x4 for a week, $x15 for a month such that $Gold - $Silver = $x*15

jedberg 7y ago

> I'm surprised WeWork locations are so few and far between, while Snap Fitness has a location on every other corner. There can't be that much more overhead to a co-working space versus a 24 hour fitness center. Different business models. The gym gets you to pay your monthly fee based mostly on the aspiration that you'll go to the gym. Most people would ditch their coworking subscription if they don't use it almost every day, since there are plenty of alternative options (unlike the gym, which is the only place to get that kind of equipment).

fragmede 7y ago
Are they so different though? There must be more than a few "wantrepreneurs" renting space from WeWork, and at the other end of the spectrum, Equinox and other high end gyms are a couple hundred dollars a month, and I'm sure they're underutilized by some members, same as a regular gym.

rhinoceraptor 7y ago

Gyms have many more members than capacity. They would have to dramatically raise the price if people actually used their memberships. OTOH co-working spaces likely have much higher utilization since pretty much everyone goes to work.

hinkley 7y ago
Not only that, for the people who do show, they are expected to be there less than 1/5th as long as a WeWork member would show up. So now you're well above an order of magnitude difference in occupancy rates.
- johannes1234321 7y ago
  The 1/5th as long isn't as relevant as the peak - I guess gyms have a peak in the evening after working hours. Duringnthe peaknit doesn't matter if people stay half an hour or four hours ...

jngreenlee 7y ago

You're almost describing Regus Not 100%, but close.

jmhnilbog 7y ago

If only everything could be homogenous everywhere, so the very few people who have the opportunity to work wherever they like could avoid momentary inconveniences!

freehunter 7y ago
I'm not sure how that is a productive comment.

wodenokoto 7y ago

While not as prevalent as gyms, regus let’s users use all their locations. Regus is old school from before coworking space was a term. They call themselves an office hotel, if I remember correctly. But they do have an area with coffee and tables where you can plug in a computer and work.

dwd 7y ago
Was in a Regus office years back and you could pretty well book a desk/office for a day anywhere in the world - some of which are in pretty cool locations (if you're into architecture). https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x48761cad0a692943%3A0x80911db669889bbf!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMs-NK2HP814n9TLzWr26yMH_azdArO5FXahTi_%3Dw337-h160-k-no!5sregus%20the%20gherkin%20-%20Google%20Search!15sCAESAggH&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipMs-NK2HP814n9TLzWr26yMH_azdArO5FXahTi_&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiik8jDrIbkAhXLTX0KHeTqDEsQoiowCnoECA4QBg https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x48761cad0a69294...