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As a Nest owner with multiple cameras, I find it hilarious that no real features have been introduced in years, and this is what they come up with instead. If

As a Nest owner with multiple cameras, I find it hilarious that no real features have been introduced in years, and this is what they come up with instead. If they would spend more time shipping features I might not care as much but they have done nothing and instead they ship this stupid “feature”. They don’t allow us to train the cameras to ignore moving trees or shadows, repetitive noise like birds cawing, or fix their “familiar face” functionality. I’ve had complete strangers identified as being a familiar face, and I’ve also had cars identified as a familiar face. Google is a terrible consumer product company.

StreamBright 7y ago
Because they are an ad company and ads revenue has nothing to do with your satisfaction.
- kempbellt 7y ago
  Not sure why this was downvoted - except maybe the "nothing to do with your satisfaction" part being a bit over exaggerated. Google's priority is ad rev. Everything else is secondary. It's like being an airplane engineer for a living, making great money, and then promising your neighbor that you'll fix the brakes on their car for 20 bucks. Maybe...one day, when you're bored, you'll get around to it, but it's definitely not your priority.
  - StreamBright 7y ago
    > Google's priority is ad rev. Everything else is secondary. Exactly my point. Even your user experience, privacy, security, developer experience is secondary. There are many examples of these being ignored on the internet. I gave up on Android because of the broken UX. I cannot just keep turning off spellcheck on my phone/tablet after every Android update when it resets back to the defaults. iOS has much better UX from this point of view, I "waste" significantly less time on fighting with the OS.
Urgo 7y ago
My thoughts exactly! I've had outdoor nest cameras for a couple of years now and was expecting at some point it'd learn that the trees moving or bugs flying across the camera were not interesting but nope...... we get this... It seems like I'm not the only one annoyed at nest lately though. I actually backed a indiegogo last week called Camect that hopefully will fix a lot of these issues and you don't even need to replace the nest cameras, though you can if you want to. I recommend checking it out!
- buro9 7y ago
  I've only recently purchased a Nest doorbell... but the comments here and some quick searching suggest I'd be far better off purchasing the remainder of my cameras from somewhere that is in the business of selling hardware like Ubiquiti, and then either using local storage (with sync to personal cloud) or something like this Camect thing. At the very least, it looks like the lack of exposed onvif / rtsp on Nest cameras is an issue that will mean I can't avoid the high subscription price and bandwidth use (and it's the bandwidth that bugs me, I'd rather store HQ to disk locally whilst transcode to a lower def for the cloud, and then have it be my cloud accounts).
  - geertj 7y ago
    Have a look at Ring also. I’ve been a happy user of their doorbell, cameras and security system. The app is updated regularly and they come out with new products all the time. Disclaimer: I work for Amazon, in a job unrelated to Ring
    - morganvachon 7y ago
      This[1] is why I will never have a Ring doorbell camera. The slippery slope is becoming a vertical drop; Amazon (with the best of intentions, surely) is conditioning people to allow warrantless wiretaps and searches as if they are the new normal. [1] https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/06/ring-coaching-police-footage/ https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/06/ring-coaching-police-foo...
    - buro9 7y ago
jordanthoms 7y ago
I'd settle for decent video seeking on the web and proper timezone support (both of which Dropcam had years ago).

StreamBright 7y ago

Because they are an ad company and ads revenue has nothing to do with your satisfaction.

kempbellt 7y ago
Not sure why this was downvoted - except maybe the "nothing to do with your satisfaction" part being a bit over exaggerated. Google's priority is ad rev. Everything else is secondary. It's like being an airplane engineer for a living, making great money, and then promising your neighbor that you'll fix the brakes on their car for 20 bucks. Maybe...one day, when you're bored, you'll get around to it, but it's definitely not your priority.
- StreamBright 7y ago
  > Google's priority is ad rev. Everything else is secondary. Exactly my point. Even your user experience, privacy, security, developer experience is secondary. There are many examples of these being ignored on the internet. I gave up on Android because of the broken UX. I cannot just keep turning off spellcheck on my phone/tablet after every Android update when it resets back to the defaults. iOS has much better UX from this point of view, I "waste" significantly less time on fighting with the OS.

Urgo 7y ago

My thoughts exactly! I've had outdoor nest cameras for a couple of years now and was expecting at some point it'd learn that the trees moving or bugs flying across the camera were not interesting but nope...... we get this... It seems like I'm not the only one annoyed at nest lately though. I actually backed a indiegogo last week called Camect that hopefully will fix a lot of these issues and you don't even need to replace the nest cameras, though you can if you want to. I recommend checking it out!

buro9 7y ago
I've only recently purchased a Nest doorbell... but the comments here and some quick searching suggest I'd be far better off purchasing the remainder of my cameras from somewhere that is in the business of selling hardware like Ubiquiti, and then either using local storage (with sync to personal cloud) or something like this Camect thing. At the very least, it looks like the lack of exposed onvif / rtsp on Nest cameras is an issue that will mean I can't avoid the high subscription price and bandwidth use (and it's the bandwidth that bugs me, I'd rather store HQ to disk locally whilst transcode to a lower def for the cloud, and then have it be my cloud accounts).
- geertj 7y ago
  Have a look at Ring also. I’ve been a happy user of their doorbell, cameras and security system. The app is updated regularly and they come out with new products all the time. Disclaimer: I work for Amazon, in a job unrelated to Ring
  - morganvachon 7y ago
    This[1] is why I will never have a Ring doorbell camera. The slippery slope is becoming a vertical drop; Amazon (with the best of intentions, surely) is conditioning people to allow warrantless wiretaps and searches as if they are the new normal. [1] https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/06/ring-coaching-police-footage/ https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/06/ring-coaching-police-foo...
  - buro9 7y ago

jordanthoms 7y ago

I'd settle for decent video seeking on the web and proper timezone support (both of which Dropcam had years ago).