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"Fox News did to our parents what they thought video games would do to us." -Ryan Scott

by jdkee 7y ago

nostromo 7y ago
All cable news is trash. The world would be better if the entire medium went away.
- mjevans 7y ago
  It used to actually be OK... Before that big event a bit under 2 decades ago. I recall that as being the most meaningful turning point. That's when "the thing the airport left on over the terminal" became 'news-entertainment' (ad funded hell) and the 24/7 non-stop news-cycle truly gained momentum. Want to make the news better gain? Kill ads.
  - bmurphy1976 7y ago
    I don't know man. It probably got worse around that time, but it sure seemed like it was already News Entertainment during the first Gulf War.
    - decoyworker 7y ago
      we play the game with the bravery of being out of range
    - mjevans 7y ago
      I'm willing to agree: my baseline was "OK" not "actually good".
  - jacobolus 7y ago
    I was a child at the time, but by all reports CNN’s breathless reporting during the first gulf war (1990–1991) was terrible. More generally every time I have ever tried watching CNN it was a very low signal:noise mix of sensationalism and gossip, without much if any serious analysis and with very low density of factual information; from what I understand that is what it has always been since its founding. Fox News was founded as an explicit propaganda channel in 1996. CNBC has always been a pro-corporate business channel. Etc. Cable news has never been okay. Maybe you are thinking of national news programs on broadcast TV at some point in the past, or e.g. the PBS News Hour? It would be conceivably possible to spend 24 hours/day on real hard-hitting video journalism, serious policy analysis, deep interviews with experts, etc., but the format doesn’t really lend itself to that. Instead every show competes for low-information channel surfers. There are rare cable news slots like Maddow’s show that are more serious than the rest. But those could just as easily be hosted on some other kind of station, and they’re still far from what they might be if given serious resources.
- seppin 7y ago
  No sorry it's not "all sides", Fox News is uniquely terrible. CNN sucks, but FN is cancer
- nabla9 7y ago
  "I have terminal cancer." "I Know what you feel man. I have a flu. All diseases suck." There is huge difference between meaningless and sensational trash news and channel designed by media genius (Roger Ailes) to achieve a specific goal with false narratives.
  - pessimizer 7y ago
    It's only your own personal political alignment that makes you see Fox as malevolent but other cable news sources as innocently blundering.
    - rkuykendall-com 7y ago
      No, it's not. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-...
      - pessimizer 7y ago
        I wasn't trying to and wouldn't ever imply that Fox News is innocently blundering, it's your own personal political alignment that would make you read me that way.

"Fox News did to our parents what they thought video games would do to us." -Ryan Scott

by jdkee 7y ago

"Fox News did to our parents what they thought video games would do to us." -Ryan Scott

nostromo 7y ago

All cable news is trash. The world would be better if the entire medium went away.

mjevans 7y ago
It used to actually be OK... Before that big event a bit under 2 decades ago. I recall that as being the most meaningful turning point. That's when "the thing the airport left on over the terminal" became 'news-entertainment' (ad funded hell) and the 24/7 non-stop news-cycle truly gained momentum. Want to make the news better gain? Kill ads.
- bmurphy1976 7y ago
  I don't know man. It probably got worse around that time, but it sure seemed like it was already News Entertainment during the first Gulf War.
  - decoyworker 7y ago
    we play the game with the bravery of being out of range
  - mjevans 7y ago
    I'm willing to agree: my baseline was "OK" not "actually good".
- jacobolus 7y ago
  I was a child at the time, but by all reports CNN’s breathless reporting during the first gulf war (1990–1991) was terrible. More generally every time I have ever tried watching CNN it was a very low signal:noise mix of sensationalism and gossip, without much if any serious analysis and with very low density of factual information; from what I understand that is what it has always been since its founding. Fox News was founded as an explicit propaganda channel in 1996. CNBC has always been a pro-corporate business channel. Etc. Cable news has never been okay. Maybe you are thinking of national news programs on broadcast TV at some point in the past, or e.g. the PBS News Hour? It would be conceivably possible to spend 24 hours/day on real hard-hitting video journalism, serious policy analysis, deep interviews with experts, etc., but the format doesn’t really lend itself to that. Instead every show competes for low-information channel surfers. There are rare cable news slots like Maddow’s show that are more serious than the rest. But those could just as easily be hosted on some other kind of station, and they’re still far from what they might be if given serious resources.
seppin 7y ago
No sorry it's not "all sides", Fox News is uniquely terrible. CNN sucks, but FN is cancer
nabla9 7y ago
"I have terminal cancer." "I Know what you feel man. I have a flu. All diseases suck." There is huge difference between meaningless and sensational trash news and channel designed by media genius (Roger Ailes) to achieve a specific goal with false narratives.
- pessimizer 7y ago
  It's only your own personal political alignment that makes you see Fox as malevolent but other cable news sources as innocently blundering.
  - rkuykendall-com 7y ago
    No, it's not. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-...
    - pessimizer 7y ago
      I wasn't trying to and wouldn't ever imply that Fox News is innocently blundering, it's your own personal political alignment that would make you read me that way.