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Doesn't this tiptoe the line with a breach of privacy? Once the computer is unlocked, is there anything stopping them from just seizing devices if they want to

Doesn't this tiptoe the line with a breach of privacy? Once the computer is unlocked, is there anything stopping them from just seizing devices if they want to review data?

seanmcdirmid 7y ago
From my understanding, TSA security isn't customs, so it isn't a constitution suspended zone.
- atm0sphere 7y ago
  More info: https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
  - AsParallel 7y ago
    Informative, though I don't think that relates to the TSA.
    - atm0sphere 7y ago
      true, it was more in reference to constitution-free zones.
- MertsA 7y ago
  The TSA does it as well, not having any valid justification has never stopped security theater before. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/12/tsa-surveillance-laptops-cellphones-domestic-flights https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/12/tsa-surveillan...
  - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
    TFA: A TSA spokesman, Matt Leas, declined to comment on the lawsuit but said: “TSA does not search the contents of electronic devices.” So my guess is that they aren’t supposed to do this, and if a judge ever got the case, the TSA would be in lots of trouble if found doing it.
- paulmd 7y ago
  I would think that you have the right to refuse to show them, and they have the right to refuse to let you through security. Flying is not a constitutionally protected activity... see, for example, the legality of un-appealable no-fly lists.
  - turk73 7y ago
    Yes, but what you are describing is Orwellian, statist bullcrap that Americans typically don't abide with at all. We are not supposed to be a nation run by administrative bureaucrats whose jobs are to hassle us. So whether or not flying is Constitutionally protected, the right to travel freely generally is protected. All this corporo-statist bs security at the airports has been in a knee-jerk response to a few incidents that seem designed to instill fear in the public and lead to the Orwellian nightmare that we have now. I'd personally like to see most all of it rolled back if only so that the cost of government can go down. If you don't feel safe flying then don't. Being free means being brave and hey it's not for everyone. Luckily, there are many asshole nations to choose from where they will happily take your freedom and let you live out your life is slavery to them for the sake of some free food or whatever. As far as un-appealable no-fly lists, that's just more Orwellian bullshit that people should not tolerate. A person living in a free country should never find themself in a position where they are on a secret list that they can't get off of!

Doesn't this tiptoe the line with a breach of privacy? Once the computer is unlocked, is there anything stopping them from just seizing devices if they want to review data?

seanmcdirmid 7y ago

From my understanding, TSA security isn't customs, so it isn't a constitution suspended zone.

atm0sphere 7y ago
More info: https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
- AsParallel 7y ago
  Informative, though I don't think that relates to the TSA.
  - atm0sphere 7y ago
    true, it was more in reference to constitution-free zones.
MertsA 7y ago
The TSA does it as well, not having any valid justification has never stopped security theater before. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/12/tsa-surveillance-laptops-cellphones-domestic-flights https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/12/tsa-surveillan...
- seanmcdirmid 7y ago
  TFA: A TSA spokesman, Matt Leas, declined to comment on the lawsuit but said: “TSA does not search the contents of electronic devices.” So my guess is that they aren’t supposed to do this, and if a judge ever got the case, the TSA would be in lots of trouble if found doing it.
paulmd 7y ago
I would think that you have the right to refuse to show them, and they have the right to refuse to let you through security. Flying is not a constitutionally protected activity... see, for example, the legality of un-appealable no-fly lists.
- turk73 7y ago
  Yes, but what you are describing is Orwellian, statist bullcrap that Americans typically don't abide with at all. We are not supposed to be a nation run by administrative bureaucrats whose jobs are to hassle us. So whether or not flying is Constitutionally protected, the right to travel freely generally is protected. All this corporo-statist bs security at the airports has been in a knee-jerk response to a few incidents that seem designed to instill fear in the public and lead to the Orwellian nightmare that we have now. I'd personally like to see most all of it rolled back if only so that the cost of government can go down. If you don't feel safe flying then don't. Being free means being brave and hey it's not for everyone. Luckily, there are many asshole nations to choose from where they will happily take your freedom and let you live out your life is slavery to them for the sake of some free food or whatever. As far as un-appealable no-fly lists, that's just more Orwellian bullshit that people should not tolerate. A person living in a free country should never find themself in a position where they are on a secret list that they can't get off of!