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You literally just have to open their front page to find them calling military deployments in a stadium near Hong Kong "drills", citing anonymous sources that s

You literally just have to open their front page to find them calling military deployments in a stadium near Hong Kong "drills", citing anonymous sources that say "they are not of concern" and quoting liberally from anonymous online-posters on Chinese message boards (sic!) spouting hate.

9nGQluzmnq3M 7y ago
They are literally drills: nobody is getting shot in Shenzhen. Of course the drills are sabre-rattling, a show of force intended to send a message, and preparation for a future assault if necessary -- but they're still drills, not use of the military in anger.
- stefan_ 7y ago
  Every "use of the military in anger" in history involves massing your forces at strategic borders. That is just War 101.
  - Aeolun 7y ago
    Also promises to the other party that “Don’t worry, this is all just a drill.”
  - Wowfunhappy 7y ago
    Okay, but given that the army hasn't attacked anyone as of right now, what term would you consider appropriate to describe the "drills"?
    - stefan_ 7y ago
      There is a term for this: mobilization. It's a bit more dramatic, of course, in wars past, but the concept remains the same: > Poland partly mobilized its troops on August 24, 1939, and fully mobilized on August 30, 1939, following the increased confrontations with Germany since March 1939. On September 1, 1939 Germany invaded Poland, which prompted both France and Britain to declare war on Germany. > On 30 August, the Polish Navy sent its destroyer flotilla to Britain, executing the Peking Plan. On the same day, Marshal of Poland Edward Rydz-Śmigły announced the mobilization of Polish troops. However, he was pressured into revoking the order by the French, who apparently still hoped for a diplomatic settlement, failing to realize that the Germans were fully mobilized and concentrated at the Polish border.
consciouskernel 7y ago
I found it interesting that another username commented with the exact same message[0] in a related thread, slightly modified but with the exact same sentence structure and quotes. > You only just have to open the SCMP front page to find them calling military deployments in a stadium near Hong Kong "drills", citing anonymous sources that say "they are not of concern" and quoting liberally from anonymous posters on Chinese message boards spouting hate. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20684694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20684694
- stefan_ 7y ago
  Actually, my comment is earlier. I'm sure dang can confirm though we're totally separate people.

9nGQluzmnq3M 7y ago

They are literally drills: nobody is getting shot in Shenzhen. Of course the drills are sabre-rattling, a show of force intended to send a message, and preparation for a future assault if necessary -- but they're still drills, not use of the military in anger.

stefan_ 7y ago
Every "use of the military in anger" in history involves massing your forces at strategic borders. That is just War 101.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  Also promises to the other party that “Don’t worry, this is all just a drill.”
- Wowfunhappy 7y ago
  Okay, but given that the army hasn't attacked anyone as of right now, what term would you consider appropriate to describe the "drills"?
  - stefan_ 7y ago
    There is a term for this: mobilization. It's a bit more dramatic, of course, in wars past, but the concept remains the same: > Poland partly mobilized its troops on August 24, 1939, and fully mobilized on August 30, 1939, following the increased confrontations with Germany since March 1939. On September 1, 1939 Germany invaded Poland, which prompted both France and Britain to declare war on Germany. > On 30 August, the Polish Navy sent its destroyer flotilla to Britain, executing the Peking Plan. On the same day, Marshal of Poland Edward Rydz-Śmigły announced the mobilization of Polish troops. However, he was pressured into revoking the order by the French, who apparently still hoped for a diplomatic settlement, failing to realize that the Germans were fully mobilized and concentrated at the Polish border.

consciouskernel 7y ago

I found it interesting that another username commented with the exact same message[0] in a related thread, slightly modified but with the exact same sentence structure and quotes. > You only just have to open the SCMP front page to find them calling military deployments in a stadium near Hong Kong "drills", citing anonymous sources that say "they are not of concern" and quoting liberally from anonymous posters on Chinese message boards spouting hate. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20684694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20684694

stefan_ 7y ago
Actually, my comment is earlier. I'm sure dang can confirm though we're totally separate people.