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Microsoft ruins Skype, then tries making their own communication tool. Ugh. What is it again that Microsoft is getting such accolades for? Visual Studio Code i

Microsoft ruins Skype, then tries making their own communication tool. Ugh. What is it again that Microsoft is getting such accolades for? Visual Studio Code is fantastic. Github is great, but they bought that. Office 365? OneDrive? I'll give you those. Hosted Exchange is a thorn in my side. Internet Explorer and Edge are (were?) both a joke. I don't have any experience with Azure. Xbox is great. Their server products have been fine since Windows 2000. Windows 10 is a joke. The Surface line isn't anything special.

wolfgke 7y ago
> What is it again that Microsoft is getting such accolades for? Visual Studio Code is fantastic. Visual Studio is great.
- Someone1234 7y ago
  For what? Legacy desktop developing? We used Visual Studio daily. Everyone I speak to wants to switch to VS Code because we're tired of the laggy mess that is Visual Studio 2019. Even with no addons it stutters and micro-freezes all day long with medium-large solutions. Somehow VS Code, an electron app(!), feels snappier than VS a native app. We're just waiting for feature party (and nothing special, just managing project files/solution files without editing the XML manually, better publishing, and similar C# debugging).
  - blub 7y ago
    VS is no longer a pure native app, it has a ton of .NET in it. In theory that should be as fast as native, in practice... you've seen it yourself. Nothing on Windows comes close to C++ for UI speed (or any other kind of speed).
lowdose 7y ago
> Microsoft ruins Skype, then tries making their own communication tool. Even some rumors MS is in the market to buy Zoom.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  To be honest, that sounds like the perfect fit. It already feels much like a MS program.
- paxys 7y ago
  They definitely missed that boat. Zoom is way too expensive after their IPO.
mopsi 7y ago
In my experience, Windows 10 is a decent OS under the hood (eg, working with SMB network shares is much more robust compared to Mac), but the GUI completely ruins the experience. Win 10 is filled with annoyances like using no less than five different visual styles for right-click context menus. Not to mention Settings app that uses the same font and color for text and clickable links: there's no way to tell buttons apart from static text. The whole GUI feels like something very poorly thought-out and cobbled together in a hurry by students for their first major school project, and unfortunately it stains the whole OS.
- dillonmckay 7y ago
  I was setting up Outlook on a new Windows 10 laptop, and copied the .pst files over. When I opened Outlook to navigate to the open file dialog to add the .pst file, the bottom of the dialog asked what I want to save the file as...
paxys 7y ago
A large chunk of the world runs on Excel. The Office desktop suite is literally what has kept Microsoft alive and thriving as a company.
dagw 7y ago
The Surface line isn't anything special. They are hands down the best not-Apple laptops I've used since IBM stopped making Thinkpads.
- screye 7y ago
  The surface laptops are especially special. Their design aesthetic is clearly unique, and their products are well distinguished from each other. No one else is 3:2 aspect ratios, processing in the screen section of the laptop, the hinge or fabric cover. (which has been shown to not be as fragile as people initially thought) I am very hyped for the 3nd gen surface laptop and the 2nd gen surface go.
pluma 7y ago
> Internet Explorer and Edge are (were?) both a joke. Chromium-based Edge (not pre-installed on Windows) is great.
Shorel 7y ago
> Edge are (were?) both a joke Edge is one of the best E-pub readers ever, in any platform. That's the only thing I use it for, but it beats Internet Explorer, that just wastes disk space, never being used.

wolfgke 7y ago

> What is it again that Microsoft is getting such accolades for? Visual Studio Code is fantastic. Visual Studio is great.

Someone1234 7y ago
For what? Legacy desktop developing? We used Visual Studio daily. Everyone I speak to wants to switch to VS Code because we're tired of the laggy mess that is Visual Studio 2019. Even with no addons it stutters and micro-freezes all day long with medium-large solutions. Somehow VS Code, an electron app(!), feels snappier than VS a native app. We're just waiting for feature party (and nothing special, just managing project files/solution files without editing the XML manually, better publishing, and similar C# debugging).
- blub 7y ago
  VS is no longer a pure native app, it has a ton of .NET in it. In theory that should be as fast as native, in practice... you've seen it yourself. Nothing on Windows comes close to C++ for UI speed (or any other kind of speed).

lowdose 7y ago

> Microsoft ruins Skype, then tries making their own communication tool. Even some rumors MS is in the market to buy Zoom.

Aeolun 7y ago
To be honest, that sounds like the perfect fit. It already feels much like a MS program.
paxys 7y ago
They definitely missed that boat. Zoom is way too expensive after their IPO.

mopsi 7y ago

In my experience, Windows 10 is a decent OS under the hood (eg, working with SMB network shares is much more robust compared to Mac), but the GUI completely ruins the experience. Win 10 is filled with annoyances like using no less than five different visual styles for right-click context menus. Not to mention Settings app that uses the same font and color for text and clickable links: there's no way to tell buttons apart from static text. The whole GUI feels like something very poorly thought-out and cobbled together in a hurry by students for their first major school project, and unfortunately it stains the whole OS.

dillonmckay 7y ago
I was setting up Outlook on a new Windows 10 laptop, and copied the .pst files over. When I opened Outlook to navigate to the open file dialog to add the .pst file, the bottom of the dialog asked what I want to save the file as...

paxys 7y ago

A large chunk of the world runs on Excel. The Office desktop suite is literally what has kept Microsoft alive and thriving as a company.

dagw 7y ago

The Surface line isn't anything special. They are hands down the best not-Apple laptops I've used since IBM stopped making Thinkpads.

screye 7y ago
The surface laptops are especially special. Their design aesthetic is clearly unique, and their products are well distinguished from each other. No one else is 3:2 aspect ratios, processing in the screen section of the laptop, the hinge or fabric cover. (which has been shown to not be as fragile as people initially thought) I am very hyped for the 3nd gen surface laptop and the 2nd gen surface go.

pluma 7y ago

> Internet Explorer and Edge are (were?) both a joke. Chromium-based Edge (not pre-installed on Windows) is great.

Shorel 7y ago

> Edge are (were?) both a joke Edge is one of the best E-pub readers ever, in any platform. That's the only thing I use it for, but it beats Internet Explorer, that just wastes disk space, never being used.