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the sentence above the one you quoted states that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Uber isn't a registered company in Colombia, which means it's operating illegall

the sentence above the one you quoted states that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Uber isn't a registered company in Colombia, which means it's operating illegally.

SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
That can't be the complete story. If Uber isn't a registered company in Colombia, to whom is Colombia sending orders and issuing fines?
nmstoker 7y ago
It's probably much more nuanced than that. Let's take the example of someone in country X using email that's run from the US - this doesn't per se mean that the email company is illegally operating in country X. It could be the users - but I don't think we'll settle it over a forum back and forth. What does seem clear to me though is that Colombia is being disproportionate and possibly somewhat arbitrary & capricious in their response. What sort of country tries to ban people for 25 years! This is the bad parenting brand of legislation ("oh, you ignored my exaggerated threat. Damn"). And I'm not saying this out of support for Uber (can't stand them, which is what makes these kinds of stand offs a good spectacle)
- maximente 7y ago
  you are introducing (perhaps deliberately straw manning, perhaps not) an example that has an extremely low overhead (low bandwidth over a network) instead of focusing on the presented example, which is: - Uber adds traffic to already choked up/bad infrastructure - Uber does not pay their employees benefits etc. because of their "partnership" so this leads to poorer health outcomes which cost the state $ later on - Uber "voluntarily" pays VAT etc. (only after taxis pushed for this) but almost certainly not commensurate with their income so yes, the company is dumping their enormous externalities without much regard for the country at hand, and it's not useful to insert a tech-focused example into the situation.

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the sentence above the one you quoted states that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Uber isn't a registered company in Colombia, which means it's operating illegall

by maximente 7y ago

the sentence above the one you quoted states that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Uber isn't a registered company in Colombia, which means it's operating illegally.

SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
That can't be the complete story. If Uber isn't a registered company in Colombia, to whom is Colombia sending orders and issuing fines?
nmstoker 7y ago
It's probably much more nuanced than that. Let's take the example of someone in country X using email that's run from the US - this doesn't per se mean that the email company is illegally operating in country X. It could be the users - but I don't think we'll settle it over a forum back and forth. What does seem clear to me though is that Colombia is being disproportionate and possibly somewhat arbitrary & capricious in their response. What sort of country tries to ban people for 25 years! This is the bad parenting brand of legislation ("oh, you ignored my exaggerated threat. Damn"). And I'm not saying this out of support for Uber (can't stand them, which is what makes these kinds of stand offs a good spectacle)
- maximente 7y ago
  you are introducing (perhaps deliberately straw manning, perhaps not) an example that has an extremely low overhead (low bandwidth over a network) instead of focusing on the presented example, which is: - Uber adds traffic to already choked up/bad infrastructure - Uber does not pay their employees benefits etc. because of their "partnership" so this leads to poorer health outcomes which cost the state $ later on - Uber "voluntarily" pays VAT etc. (only after taxis pushed for this) but almost certainly not commensurate with their income so yes, the company is dumping their enormous externalities without much regard for the country at hand, and it's not useful to insert a tech-focused example into the situation.