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> People don't care about others anymore Which was inevitable. Rule enforcement (all kinds, not just the police) works on the premise that most people will be

by shados 7y ago

> People don't care about others anymore Which was inevitable. Rule enforcement (all kinds, not just the police) works on the premise that most people will be reasonable and follow the rules, or social pressure will handle it. But then you throw in "no one likes a snitch!", "This rule isn't enforced so why should I follow it?", "They're trying to enforce this rule I don't like, they have better things to do!", and you end up with a perfect storm: We shouldn't care about anything that won't get you in trouble, and you shouldn't get in trouble for anything. Push that to its limit and you get some extreme case of individualism. You mention schools, but schools are basically no longer allowed to enforce anything else they get sued by some entitled parent.

misterprime 7y ago
This explains why so few people use their blinkers when changing lanes, or when slowing in advance of an upcoming turn. Police, please!
- Scoundreller 7y ago
  I never understood this one. It doesn’t even take me any extra time to do it.
Scoundreller 7y ago
It doesn’t help when those rules result in you getting a ticket for going through a red light 0.1s after it turned red. And not because you were driving, but because you let someone else borrow your car. Or you end up in some bureaucratic black hole where the law says you can go to either of these 2 agencies for a service, and both agencies (in)directly tell you to go to the other.
- shados 7y ago
  Yup, that's part of the issue. Essentially we're in a world where we have rules, but how they are enforced, used, interpreted, is a huge judgement call. I mean, there's always going to need some level of interpretation, because those who author the rules aren't perfect. But the rules are frequently written with a heavy disconnect when it comes to said enforcement. So each and everyone of us is taught to start interpreting them in our own individual ways (and "us" includes the cops). That doesn't scale so hot at several hundreds million people+
  - Scoundreller 7y ago
    In the former case, the law was written so it’s impossible to fight it (can’t even compel the officer that signed it to attend). And in the latter, the agencies investigate themselves, so unless it’s big enough to sue them in court, you won’t create change. And they know that: create lots of little problems for the public, and you can get away with it.

by shados 7y ago

misterprime 7y ago

This explains why so few people use their blinkers when changing lanes, or when slowing in advance of an upcoming turn. Police, please!

Scoundreller 7y ago
I never understood this one. It doesn’t even take me any extra time to do it.

Scoundreller 7y ago

It doesn’t help when those rules result in you getting a ticket for going through a red light 0.1s after it turned red. And not because you were driving, but because you let someone else borrow your car. Or you end up in some bureaucratic black hole where the law says you can go to either of these 2 agencies for a service, and both agencies (in)directly tell you to go to the other.

shados 7y ago
Yup, that's part of the issue. Essentially we're in a world where we have rules, but how they are enforced, used, interpreted, is a huge judgement call. I mean, there's always going to need some level of interpretation, because those who author the rules aren't perfect. But the rules are frequently written with a heavy disconnect when it comes to said enforcement. So each and everyone of us is taught to start interpreting them in our own individual ways (and "us" includes the cops). That doesn't scale so hot at several hundreds million people+
- Scoundreller 7y ago
  In the former case, the law was written so it’s impossible to fight it (can’t even compel the officer that signed it to attend). And in the latter, the agencies investigate themselves, so unless it’s big enough to sue them in court, you won’t create change. And they know that: create lots of little problems for the public, and you can get away with it.