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Heh, I have a hunch that the ‘golden age of games’ is, for everyone, when they were 18-24!

ardit33 7y ago
I might disagree.... if you were a kid in the 90s, you were player at Peak 2D, (NES,SNES, Arcade, Neo Geo), and early 3D, both in PC and consoles where publishers were experimenting. You had completely new genres of games being invented almost every other year. Today it is the same type of games, just re-hashing of the same content, maybe with more/better graphics. The only most recent completely new type of game is Minecraft.... and walking simulators type of games. (although some one can say that they are just like old time RPGs).
- tiseno 7y ago
  Here is a list of new types of games that has come about the last couple of years that might be worth checking out if the only one you are aware if is Minecraft (this might sound snarky but I take you at face value and you might actually not have heard of these types of games before). Some of these have characteristics of old games, but often has stuff that was simply not possible 15+ years ago. Sandboxed MMOS (EVE, no mans sky, Elite: Dangerous) MOBA (Dota, HoTs, LoL, Smite) Real MOBAs (WoW Arena, WC3: Warlock, Battlerite) Battle royale games (Apex, PUBG, Fortnite, DayZ, ETF, Battlerite Royale) Simulators (Arma, flight sims, truck driver simulator, which are now SUPER realistic) Online Trading Card Games (Hearthstone, Magic [1]) Rocket League (I dont know any game like it nor what genre it is "sport"?) Fast paced RTS (WarCraft, StarCraft, Total Anihilation, Red Alert) Auto Chess (Autochess, Dota Underlords, Teamfight Tactics) Competitive FPS (Call of Duty, Counter Strike, Rainbow Six Siege, Overwatch) Casual social/arena action games (JackBoxTV, Use your words, Mario party, Overcooked, Duck Game, Gang Beasts, Speedrunners, Stick Fight, Hidden in plain sight [2]) If you are feeling old/and/or out of touch of modern gaming and coming from a perspective from the 90s, at least try these genres out. And of course games in the same genre has cross pollination and are similar in some ways, but some games play very differently, so don't dismiss a genre totally because you have tried only one game! [1] One could argue that these are not a new type of game, but the mechanics in hearthstone is not possible in a physical TCG. [2] Boardgame-ish types of games. Edit: Of course I have left out a TON of games and some are actually considered quite old, these were the ones that came to mind.
  - svachalek 7y ago
    Not sure if this is sarcastic or not... EVE is from 2003. DotA is too. Magic Online was from 2002. RTS goes well back into the 90s, simulators back to the 70s, etc etc. I'll give you Battle Royale and I don't even know what Rocket League is but most of these are not recent at all.
    - Merem 7y ago
      Rocket League is a football game which you play with cars. Depending on the mode, 1-4 players play against each other to score goals in a specific time limit. It's also not new though, Battle-Cars came before that.
      - tiseno 7y ago
        I think you mean SARPBC (Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars), released in 2008. Practically the same game, and the only ones in the genre. Battle Cars was a racing game akin to Mario Kart i believe.
    - tiseno 7y ago
      Yeah, not all are from, but most are from after 2000. As the person said: the only new "type" of game they know of released the last years was Minecraft, and lists games from "early 3D" era, I assume the person is not aware of all the new genres of games created the last 20 years. The only goal with my post was to list some genres that might be unknown (some of which has been around for a long time). I hope someone reads the list and finds something new that they might like, you should try out Rocket League if you are remotely interested in games. Rocket League is an insanely hard (high skill cieling) physics based football-ish kind of game. Simulators today are a totally different breed of games, no one that plays them now would consider them even close to what was possible to achieve 20 years ago, thats why I included them. Edit: I meant to write Planetary Annihilation, not Total Annihilation in my original post. Which is a quite unique RTS.
- Beldin 7y ago
  Papers, please, and that dragon, cancer are both types of games that did not exist before. Probably there's a few more indie games that I am not aware of. If you want to stick to mainstream games only, even then there is real innovation. E.g. calling Super Mario Odyssee a rehashing of Mario Galaxy does it a misservice (in my view).
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mettamage 7y ago
That's an interesting idea. However, I'm a counterexample unfortunately. Of all the games that ardit33 talked about, I was between 12 to 18. And for me that period was the golden age of gaming. A fun side anecdote: I remember when I played GoldenEye I had an English to Dutch dictionary, just to understand the missions! I really got caught up on the term "rendez vous with 006" (this was with the level called Facility), I couldn't find it! And my parents weren't that great in English or any other foreign language, so they didn't know either. It took me 6 months of asking some people from time to time to figure it out. The golden age of gaming for me was between 12 to 18. I loved Warcraft 3 for example. And I felt it all went slowly downhill after the first installment of World of Warcraft.
- AJ007 7y ago
  Similar time frame for me, but I loved Warcraft 1, 2, and disliked 3. Loved the first Diablo, zero interest in the rest. The golden age for me was perhaps a little later, LAN parties with friends, primarily FPS games with some RTS mixed in, circa 2000-2003. My biggest mistake was thinking as we got older and had more money we could do this more, but instead it was never. There are a lot of really good games out there. Game developers (specifically indies) have learned lessons from old games. Some games are updated persistently thanks to disliked business models. The nostalgia factor is hard to overcome, but it is something that is completely invisible unless you were the one playing the game 20+ years ago.
  - tiseno 7y ago
    To me it seems the "golden age" of gaming for everyone here has actually nothing to do with the games per se. I have nostalgia as well from when i was 12-18 when we did lan parties every weekend. But I actually think my golden age of gaming is still going. I have been gaming consistently through my college education and now when I am working. I have found new games (and old classics that i continue to play from time to time) and never stopped. I suspect it will end only when/if i move in together with my SO and get kids or something. I feel in general that people are bad at keeping long friendships, and I seem very good at it (I don't know why). I have ~20 close friends that I speak to regularly that I have known for like 10 years. Many of those are people from the "golden days". Have people that say they miss the "golden days" just not kept in touch with the friends they had at that time? Or have they just given up on gaming because everyone else they knew stopped playing?
corysama 7y ago
There’s an article I can’t find on The Onion titled “Scientist Identify Coolest Time Ever”. Turns out it was when you, the reader, were 13.
xenihn 7y ago
Not for me. Grade School: Doom 2, Quake, Warcraft 2, Diablo, Starcraft, Red Alert, HOMM 1-3, Total Annihilation Jr High - High School: Tribes (started playing it late), Warcraft 3 / DOTA, Diablo 2, Counter-Strike, Team Fortress Classic, World Of Warcraft (beta through WOTLK) College: Team Fortress 2, Heroes Of Newerth, League of Legends Post-college: Civilization 5, DOTA 2, Path of Exile I consider all of these periods equally great/golden. The number of games in each period varies, but I don't consider that a factor. I could go back and play any of these games and enjoy them today, assuming compatibility issues are dealt with and there are servers with players for the multiplayer-focused titles (sadly not the case for Tribes, and I think HON is dead too). I played Diablo 1 for the first time in nearly nineteen years last night on diabloweb, and it's aged incredibly well. The atmosphere is just as immersive as it was back in my childhood. I was surprised to not feel nostalgic. Instead, I was reminded of how incredibly disappointing Diablo 3 was. I'm pretty gamed out now. Lately I only really play MTG Arena. The current Battle Royale era is the first major gaming phase I've opted out of entirely. I haven't played DOTA2 in nearly a year after playing at least one MOBA game near-daily between 2004 and 2018. I'm tempted to try WoW Classic, but I feel like I'll either be unable to play more than a few hours before losing all interest, or it will completely take over my life again
- EForEndeavour 7y ago
  For anyone else whose attention was piqued by mention of this "diabloweb"... https://d07riv.github.io/diabloweb/ https://d07riv.github.io/diabloweb/ So nostalgic!
- EdwardDiego 7y ago
  In terms of the ARPGs I can strongly recommend Grim Dawn, a Kickstarted game built by former members of the Titanquest dev team.
blondin 7y ago
interesting, yet as someone else commented this assumes things only get better over time. which is obviously and throughout history not true. we have had entire civilizations and everything they did dissipated... we need to strive to preserve the good things. and video games is one of those areas where the best ever will often be a name from a not so distant past... sorry.

I might disagree.... if you were a kid in the 90s, you were player at Peak 2D, (NES,SNES, Arcade, Neo Geo), and early 3D, both in PC and consoles where publishers were experimenting. You had completely new genres of games being invented almost every other year. Today it is the same type of games, just re-hashing of the same content, maybe with more/better graphics. The only most recent completely new type of game is Minecraft.... and walking simulators type of games. (although some one can say that they are just like old time RPGs).

tiseno 7y ago
Here is a list of new types of games that has come about the last couple of years that might be worth checking out if the only one you are aware if is Minecraft (this might sound snarky but I take you at face value and you might actually not have heard of these types of games before). Some of these have characteristics of old games, but often has stuff that was simply not possible 15+ years ago. Sandboxed MMOS (EVE, no mans sky, Elite: Dangerous) MOBA (Dota, HoTs, LoL, Smite) Real MOBAs (WoW Arena, WC3: Warlock, Battlerite) Battle royale games (Apex, PUBG, Fortnite, DayZ, ETF, Battlerite Royale) Simulators (Arma, flight sims, truck driver simulator, which are now SUPER realistic) Online Trading Card Games (Hearthstone, Magic [1]) Rocket League (I dont know any game like it nor what genre it is "sport"?) Fast paced RTS (WarCraft, StarCraft, Total Anihilation, Red Alert) Auto Chess (Autochess, Dota Underlords, Teamfight Tactics) Competitive FPS (Call of Duty, Counter Strike, Rainbow Six Siege, Overwatch) Casual social/arena action games (JackBoxTV, Use your words, Mario party, Overcooked, Duck Game, Gang Beasts, Speedrunners, Stick Fight, Hidden in plain sight [2]) If you are feeling old/and/or out of touch of modern gaming and coming from a perspective from the 90s, at least try these genres out. And of course games in the same genre has cross pollination and are similar in some ways, but some games play very differently, so don't dismiss a genre totally because you have tried only one game! [1] One could argue that these are not a new type of game, but the mechanics in hearthstone is not possible in a physical TCG. [2] Boardgame-ish types of games. Edit: Of course I have left out a TON of games and some are actually considered quite old, these were the ones that came to mind.
- svachalek 7y ago
  Not sure if this is sarcastic or not... EVE is from 2003. DotA is too. Magic Online was from 2002. RTS goes well back into the 90s, simulators back to the 70s, etc etc. I'll give you Battle Royale and I don't even know what Rocket League is but most of these are not recent at all.
  - Merem 7y ago
    Rocket League is a football game which you play with cars. Depending on the mode, 1-4 players play against each other to score goals in a specific time limit. It's also not new though, Battle-Cars came before that.
    - tiseno 7y ago
      I think you mean SARPBC (Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars), released in 2008. Practically the same game, and the only ones in the genre. Battle Cars was a racing game akin to Mario Kart i believe.
  - tiseno 7y ago
    Yeah, not all are from, but most are from after 2000. As the person said: the only new "type" of game they know of released the last years was Minecraft, and lists games from "early 3D" era, I assume the person is not aware of all the new genres of games created the last 20 years. The only goal with my post was to list some genres that might be unknown (some of which has been around for a long time). I hope someone reads the list and finds something new that they might like, you should try out Rocket League if you are remotely interested in games. Rocket League is an insanely hard (high skill cieling) physics based football-ish kind of game. Simulators today are a totally different breed of games, no one that plays them now would consider them even close to what was possible to achieve 20 years ago, thats why I included them. Edit: I meant to write Planetary Annihilation, not Total Annihilation in my original post. Which is a quite unique RTS.
Beldin 7y ago
Papers, please, and that dragon, cancer are both types of games that did not exist before. Probably there's a few more indie games that I am not aware of. If you want to stick to mainstream games only, even then there is real innovation. E.g. calling Super Mario Odyssee a rehashing of Mario Galaxy does it a misservice (in my view).

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mettamage 7y ago

That's an interesting idea. However, I'm a counterexample unfortunately. Of all the games that ardit33 talked about, I was between 12 to 18. And for me that period was the golden age of gaming. A fun side anecdote: I remember when I played GoldenEye I had an English to Dutch dictionary, just to understand the missions! I really got caught up on the term "rendez vous with 006" (this was with the level called Facility), I couldn't find it! And my parents weren't that great in English or any other foreign language, so they didn't know either. It took me 6 months of asking some people from time to time to figure it out. The golden age of gaming for me was between 12 to 18. I loved Warcraft 3 for example. And I felt it all went slowly downhill after the first installment of World of Warcraft.

AJ007 7y ago
Similar time frame for me, but I loved Warcraft 1, 2, and disliked 3. Loved the first Diablo, zero interest in the rest. The golden age for me was perhaps a little later, LAN parties with friends, primarily FPS games with some RTS mixed in, circa 2000-2003. My biggest mistake was thinking as we got older and had more money we could do this more, but instead it was never. There are a lot of really good games out there. Game developers (specifically indies) have learned lessons from old games. Some games are updated persistently thanks to disliked business models. The nostalgia factor is hard to overcome, but it is something that is completely invisible unless you were the one playing the game 20+ years ago.
- tiseno 7y ago
  To me it seems the "golden age" of gaming for everyone here has actually nothing to do with the games per se. I have nostalgia as well from when i was 12-18 when we did lan parties every weekend. But I actually think my golden age of gaming is still going. I have been gaming consistently through my college education and now when I am working. I have found new games (and old classics that i continue to play from time to time) and never stopped. I suspect it will end only when/if i move in together with my SO and get kids or something. I feel in general that people are bad at keeping long friendships, and I seem very good at it (I don't know why). I have ~20 close friends that I speak to regularly that I have known for like 10 years. Many of those are people from the "golden days". Have people that say they miss the "golden days" just not kept in touch with the friends they had at that time? Or have they just given up on gaming because everyone else they knew stopped playing?

corysama 7y ago

There’s an article I can’t find on The Onion titled “Scientist Identify Coolest Time Ever”. Turns out it was when you, the reader, were 13.

xenihn 7y ago

Not for me. Grade School: Doom 2, Quake, Warcraft 2, Diablo, Starcraft, Red Alert, HOMM 1-3, Total Annihilation Jr High - High School: Tribes (started playing it late), Warcraft 3 / DOTA, Diablo 2, Counter-Strike, Team Fortress Classic, World Of Warcraft (beta through WOTLK) College: Team Fortress 2, Heroes Of Newerth, League of Legends Post-college: Civilization 5, DOTA 2, Path of Exile I consider all of these periods equally great/golden. The number of games in each period varies, but I don't consider that a factor. I could go back and play any of these games and enjoy them today, assuming compatibility issues are dealt with and there are servers with players for the multiplayer-focused titles (sadly not the case for Tribes, and I think HON is dead too). I played Diablo 1 for the first time in nearly nineteen years last night on diabloweb, and it's aged incredibly well. The atmosphere is just as immersive as it was back in my childhood. I was surprised to not feel nostalgic. Instead, I was reminded of how incredibly disappointing Diablo 3 was. I'm pretty gamed out now. Lately I only really play MTG Arena. The current Battle Royale era is the first major gaming phase I've opted out of entirely. I haven't played DOTA2 in nearly a year after playing at least one MOBA game near-daily between 2004 and 2018. I'm tempted to try WoW Classic, but I feel like I'll either be unable to play more than a few hours before losing all interest, or it will completely take over my life again

EForEndeavour 7y ago
For anyone else whose attention was piqued by mention of this "diabloweb"... https://d07riv.github.io/diabloweb/ https://d07riv.github.io/diabloweb/ So nostalgic!
EdwardDiego 7y ago
In terms of the ARPGs I can strongly recommend Grim Dawn, a Kickstarted game built by former members of the Titanquest dev team.

blondin 7y ago

interesting, yet as someone else commented this assumes things only get better over time. which is obviously and throughout history not true. we have had entire civilizations and everything they did dissipated... we need to strive to preserve the good things. and video games is one of those areas where the best ever will often be a name from a not so distant past... sorry.