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The Principia Discordia (1963)
- weeksie 7y agoWe had copies of this and the Book of The Subgenius laying around my high school. Obviously Principia Discordia was from much earlier but the new wave/punk scene around the 80s-90s cusp in (of all places, Anchorage, Alaska) was all about this particular brand of weirdness. We had all read Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus! Trilogy as well and contented ourselves making obscure jokes having to do with Eris, the number 23, and Slack, and intricate collage flyers with the assistance of the copy machines at Kinko's. Good times. Fuck 'em, even if they can take a joke. <3
- api 7y agoCan you fnord see the fnords?
- Fnoord 7y agohttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/
- api 7y ago"The movie's plot is based on the true story of a group of young computer hackers from Hannover, Germany. In the late 1980s the orphaned Karl Koch invests his inheritance in a flat and a home computer. At first he dials up to bulletin boards to discuss conspiracy theories inspired by his favorite novel, R.A. Wilson's "Illuminatus", but soon he and his friend David start breaking into government and military computers. Pepe, one of Karl's rather criminal acquaintances senses that there is money in computer cracking - he travels to east Berlin and tries to contact the KGB." A bunch of dorks get online and talk about fandom stuff and it's all just playing around until Pepe contacts the KGB. So... uhh... that like... actually happened. Reality generally requires surrealist fiction to capture. It's too weird for conventional narratives.
- Fnoord 7y agoIt is more realistic than Takedown vs Freedom Downtime. See URLs hereunder. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Koch_(hacker) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Koch_(hacker) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Computer_Club https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Computer_Club
- Bartweiss 7y agoWilliam Gibson put it nicely: every time one of these things happens, the job of sci-fi writers gets harder. And now Psychedlic Warlord of the Cult of Dead Cow is running for President - but people are worried he's too mainstream and boring to elect. No wonder Gibson is writing recent-past stories these days.
- checktheorder 7y ago>And now Psychedlic Warlord of the Cult of Dead Cow is running for President Me, two minutes ago: "Oh, I bet he's some oddball fringe candidate who'll never get any press attention." Me, after a quick google search: "Oh my god."
- Bartweiss 7y agoRight? Thirty years ago, Bill Clinton smoking pot was still a major moral question and Beto was a teenager writing weird short stories on forums. Now he's a bland mainstream candidate, his drugs-and-crime teen handle was about a three-day news story, and a former federal prosecutor candidate is making up stories about smoking pot to sound cool. "This makes my job harder" indeed...
- labster 7y agoAt my university we discovered that if we passed lpr a multiple copy count, only the first copy would count against the print quota. That would have been really useful if the Campus Crusade for Chaos and Confusion existed and put up silly flyers—but of course sources differ on the cabal’s existence. Perhaps the truth will never be known. I did manage to make it to the grave of Emperor Norton I back on 5/5/05, and met a pretender claiming to be Norton’s descendant. From what I know of the guy, he seems like an improvement over the current government fnord.
- booleandilemma 7y agoI notice that this was posted by emptath75. 7 + 5 + 11 (yesterday’s date) = 23 It’s so obvious!
- ptah 7y agohail eris
- Endy 7y agoHail Eris.
- jmiskovic 7y agoThis page and the next one are surprisingly lucid: https://principiadiscordia.com/book/56.php https://principiadiscordia.com/book/56.php
- dsr_ 7y agoContains the most profound written wisdom: A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.
- mattkevan 7y agoCan I recommend here John Higgs’ excellent book ‘The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band who Burned a Million Pounds’ [0] It’s ostensibly a bio of the band The KLF (or the justified ancients of Mu), who somehow had a successful music career by taking discordianism as far as it could go. However, the book widens to Robert Anton Wilson, Timothy Leary, the Illuminatus and most of the second half of the 20th century. If you haven’t heard of the KLF, they’re well worth looking into: after having a load of hits in the early 90s, they retired by machine-gunning the BRIT Award audience (with blanks), deleting their entire back catalogue and setting fire to all the money they’d earned. [0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/KLF-Chaos-Burned-Million-Pounds/dp/1780226551/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/KLF-Chaos-Burned-Million-Pounds/dp/...
- the_other 7y agoSeconded. The book is a joy. Also, the current UK discordian undercurrent is producing some fnord wonderful things. Daisy Eris’ Cosmic Trigger play has opened some excellent locks (perhaps not flood gates yet). And the KLF have recently gone into businesses as undertakers [0]. [0]: https://www.mumufication.com/ https://www.mumufication.com/
- mattkevan 7y agoI dunno, pretty sure the last few years with fake news, antivax, birthers, preppers, qanon, deepfakes, troll armies, bot farms and the like is proof that Operation Mindfuck has been more successful than the wildest dreams of the acid-soaked hippies that thought it’d be a lark in the 60s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mindfuck https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mindfuck
- enkiv2 7y agoHiggs has another book, perhaps even more philosophically aligned with discordianism, called "Stranger than We Can Imagine", which has as its thesis that the central defining trait of the 20th century was that it resisted making sense.
- brylie 7y ago
- jerrysievert 7y agomy only fully uv tattoo simply says fnord.
- llamataboot 7y agoThe Hell Law says that Hell is reserved exclusively for them that believe in it. Further, the lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them that believe in it on the supposition that they'll go there if they don't. (helped me out of a jam as someone raised christian...)
- kylek 7y agoHappy Zaraday [0] [0] https://discordia.fandom.com/wiki/Zaraday https://discordia.fandom.com/wiki/Zaraday
- dajohnson89 7y agoFor a second, I was excited to see someone created a discord about Principia Mathematica :-/
- michaelt 7y agoI'm a big fan of https://principiadiscordia.com/book/78.php https://principiadiscordia.com/book/78.php - DISCORDIAN SOCIETY SUPER SECRET CRYPTOGRAPHIC CYPHER CODE Of possible interest to all Discordians, this information is herewith released from the vaults of A.I.S.B., under the auspices of Episkopos Dr. Mordecai Malignatius, KNS. SAMPLE MESSAGE: ("HAIL ERIS") CONVERSATION: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 STEP 1. Write out the message (HAIL ERIS) and put all the vowels at the end (HLRSAIEI) STEP 2. Reverse order (IEIASRLH) STEP 3. Convert to numbers (9-5-9-1-19-18-12-8) STEP 4. Put into numerical order (1-5-8-9-9-12-18-19) STEP 5. Convert back to letters (AEHIILRS) This cryptographic cypher code is GUARANTEED TO BE 100% UNBREAKABLE.
- foobar_ 7y agoAll statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.
- blacksmith_tb 7y agoThis seems like RAW riffing off what in Buddhism is called catuskoti[1]. 1: https://aeon.co/essays/the-logic-of-buddhist-philosophy-goes-beyond-simple-truth https://aeon.co/essays/the-logic-of-buddhist-philosophy-goes...
- lioeters 7y agoSounds like a passage of Buddhist literature.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagarjuna#Sunyata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagarjuna#Sunyata
- mtVessel 7y ago...or a tutorial on Javascript
- aasasd 7y agoDiscordianism has nothing on the Church of the Subgenius. I've read the pamplet and the Wikipedia page several times each, and still have no half coherent idea of what the church is about—except the chaos, of course.
- ganzuul 7y ago'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.
- nemo1618 7y agoA SERMON ON ETHICS AND LOVE has always stuck with me: "I am filled with fear and tormented with terrible visions of pain. Everywhere people are hurting one another, the planet is rampant with injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers imprison sons, children perish while brothers war. O, woe." WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THAT, IF IT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? "But nobody wants it! Everybody hates it." OH. WELL, THEN STOP.
- aperrien 7y agoI like that one as well as I think it's a great example of the intractability of coordination problems.
- ziroshima 7y agoR.A.W. had some great books and I always felt he was very underappreciated. Quantum Psychology in particular really changed my outlook, and I've always felt it should be talked about more.
- carapace 7y agoYa, he basically showed that quantum phenomenon happen all the time at macro-scale and nobody noticed. Weird.
- scubbo 7y agoMy first tattoo was (still is, I guess) of the Sacred Chao! Hail Eris, all hail Discordia!
- citruscomputing 7y agoMine was the hand of Eris :)
- jerrysievert 7y agomine was also the sacred chao, followed by the uv fnord and later by the eye in the pyramid in flame, where the flames also light up in uv.
- jonathankoren 7y agoEarlier this year at SXSW a documentary about Subgenius was was screened. I supported its kickstarter, but I haven't watched it myself. https://laughingsquid.com/jr-bob-dobbs-church-of-the-subgenius-documentary/ https://laughingsquid.com/jr-bob-dobbs-church-of-the-subgeni...
- bartcobain 7y agoHail Eris Discordia!
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- citruscomputing 7y ago"I have come to tell you that you are free. Many ages ago, My consciousness left humanity, that they might develop themselves. I return to find this development approaching completion, but hindered by fear and by misunderstanding. You have built for yourselves psychic suits of armor, and clad in them, your vision is restricted, your movements are clumsy and painful, your skin is bruised, and your spirit is broiled in the sun. I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and I tell you that you are free." --Eris Nancy Discordia
- rootw0rm 7y agoOnce upon a time I had a corporation named Golden Apple Research Group. Discordianism inspired the name.
- somesortofsystm 7y agoReading this over coffee and flicking through "Behold the Pale Horse" while William Gibson "strange cargo" plays in the background .. I can still smell the sage of the Bay Area bookshops where this was a staple. I just checked however, and do already have a .PDF. How can one not have bumped into FNORD in this day and age ..