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Climate crisis, shown directly on power plant, in guerrilla projection
- eloff 7y agoBrilliant. I'm not a big art fan, but this really grabs me. I take my hat off to the people behind this.
- zajio1am 7y agoConsidering that organization behind this (Greenpeace) is also protesting against nuclear energy, the most realistic alternative to fossil energy, i will not take my hat off.
- aplummer 7y agoThat’s not the most realistic alternative to fossil energy. The most realistic option would be the cheapest, renewables and storage.
- bamboozled 7y agoCould we say both are realistic alternatives? We've ran out of time and really need to move away from coal, like yesterday, who cares which method we use, let's just stop burning fossil fuels.
- arnoooooo 7y agoI care. Safe nuclear power plants require high quality maintenance and stringent regulations. I'm not too optimistic about social stability (the part of climate change we won't be able to avoid will not help), so I don't want nuclear power plants all around.
- willis936 7y agoShould a nonexistent energy storage mechanism be considered realistic?
- zajio1am 7y agoStorage for renewables is realistic for hour-to-hour and max day-to-day fluctuations. But in central europe (like where the power plant from the article is located) solar power production during winter is about 15 % of summer values. You cannot reasonably store electricity for whole season.
- akvadrako 7y agoStorage isn't yet realistic for whole-day fluctuations. Current capital costs are about $200/kWh. Daily global energy use is about 400 TWh. That would be an 80000 trillion dollar battery. That number is so outrageous it's basically infinite. Even if the whole world focused on building a battery to supply a single country for a single day we'd run out of materials and land (batteries aren't small). The only hope for energy storage is 100000x cost reductions.
- eloff 7y agoI can appreciate the art by itself without having to agree with everything Greenpeace does (I don't much care for then for the record.) Don't politicize everything, people you don't agree with can accomplish great things too.
- techrich 7y agokinda pathetic the levels they will stoop to, to make the point.
- StavrosK 7y agoYes, projecting words on buildings, absolutely atrocious.
- i80and 7y agoYou're going to have to break down a bit what you think is pathetic about this, I think.
- alx_hghs 7y agoWe’re heading straight over a cliff and instead of debating how to solve the problem we’re debating how to even talk about the problem. How is that productive?
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- gravelc 7y agoYeah, it's tragic. No damage to any property. Doesn't interfere with anyone going about their daily business.
- jjellyy 7y agoIts a huge tax and central planning scam, with people like this as foot soldiers for the elite.
- orthecreedence 7y ago> foot soldiers for the elite. Well, if this isn't the pot calling the kettle black...
- jjellyy 7y agoClimate change is a hoax to increase taxes. I always hear that we’re so screwed for a million reasons and if we dont act now we go into a “runaway” scenario we cannot recover from. If this is true why have we not already hit this runaway scenario. If we’re already in that state we’d be better of leaning into it and saving resources to deal with the changes. Also the earth has natural feedback mechanisms to deal with higher temperatures - more clouds from increased water vapor. Also is the runaway scenario purely a function of temperature ? If so why has the earth not locked into the runaway in the past when the earth was warmer than it is now ? Also, all of this C02 used to be i the air ! “Fossil fuels” is compressed plant matter from millions of years ago that pulled C02 out of the air via photosynthesis, what wrong with releasing it back in? Plants are thriving all over the world due to the increased C02 levels - feedback mechanisms at work ! Obviously lets be smart and not ignore this but some people take their concerns on this issue way to far, and the cost increases are not justified let alone the fact solar panels are disposable and cost lots on energy to produce, same with batteries !
- jjellyy 7y agoIf you’re gonna downvote, prove me wrong first !
- krastanov 7y agoIf someone tells you the Earth is flat, would you really attempt debating them? Or a very aggressive extreme antivaxer? There is a level of intellectual honesty necessary on both sides for a debate to be meaningful. When something has been so thoroughly debunked and it is still waived as an argument it is hard to believe that honesty is present.
- showdeadplease 7y agoYour faux intellectualism and politeness is a thin veil for your own blatant dishonesty. Or is it head-in-sand ignorance? Either way, you won't hear what you don't want to hear, and you don't want anyone else to hear it, either. Shameful Marxist liars. One way or another, you won't stop until you starve millions of people, just like the Marxists before you. Evil never sleeps.
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