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Because it's incredibly faster to process, use, replicate, distribute and earn using that data. That is what makes it scary. Also loot boxes - imagine if Wizar

Because it's incredibly faster to process, use, replicate, distribute and earn using that data. That is what makes it scary. Also loot boxes - imagine if Wizards of the Coast walked and gave away MTG booster packs on the street for free but told you "pay 10 cents to open it and you could get this cool stuff". Sets a completely different mental model in your head.

akersten 7y ago
> Also loot boxes - imagine if Wizards of the Coast walked and gave away MTG booster packs on the street for free but told you "pay 10 cents to open it and you could get this cool stuff". Sets a completely different mental model in your head. Would that be illegal though? I think my point stands - you could do that in real life and no one is really disturbed by it to campaign for it to be outlawed. You can even see it happen if you ever ride the metro, panhandlers will give you a book/trinkets/snacks and ask for a "donation" for you to keep it (most people refuse and give back the token).
- thecupisblue 7y ago
  Pretty different things - in the panhandler case, you don't want it, it's not tied to anything you do, their target group is everyone. This is more like standing in front of a kindergarden with an icecream truck before lunch and giving away free ice creams on a hot summer day but you can't open them just look at them unless you pay. It's abusing human psychology without you asking for it - you just want to play the game and they are pushing your brain's buttons to get you to buy stuff. Maybe it won't work on you, but imagine how it's "brainwashing" the younger generations.
  - akersten 7y ago
    It seems there's a lot of parallels between this and advertising in general. I understand the sentiment and feel the same way about advertising's negative effects, and how predatory a lot of marketing is - especially marketing targeted toward children. But it's kind of "exit through the gift shop," right? All you wanted to do was ride the roller coaster, but now you've got all of these trinkets and refreshing beverages that you can touch and pick up, but you just can't have without paying. And to me that just seems part and parcel of modern capitalism, so I'm not really in favor of outlawing a particular flavor of it.
    - amelius 7y ago
      > And to me that just seems part and parcel of modern capitalism, so I'm not really in favor of outlawing a particular flavor of it. Net neutrality is also threatened by capitalism. Do you also want that gone?
- rebuilder 7y ago
  I thought where loot boxes are banned, it's because they're considered gambling.
Kiro 7y ago
That has nothing to do with the illegalization of loot boxes though. They ban it because of the gambling aspect, not because of the crate/key scheme.

akersten 7y ago

> Also loot boxes - imagine if Wizards of the Coast walked and gave away MTG booster packs on the street for free but told you "pay 10 cents to open it and you could get this cool stuff". Sets a completely different mental model in your head. Would that be illegal though? I think my point stands - you could do that in real life and no one is really disturbed by it to campaign for it to be outlawed. You can even see it happen if you ever ride the metro, panhandlers will give you a book/trinkets/snacks and ask for a "donation" for you to keep it (most people refuse and give back the token).

thecupisblue 7y ago
Pretty different things - in the panhandler case, you don't want it, it's not tied to anything you do, their target group is everyone. This is more like standing in front of a kindergarden with an icecream truck before lunch and giving away free ice creams on a hot summer day but you can't open them just look at them unless you pay. It's abusing human psychology without you asking for it - you just want to play the game and they are pushing your brain's buttons to get you to buy stuff. Maybe it won't work on you, but imagine how it's "brainwashing" the younger generations.
- akersten 7y ago
  It seems there's a lot of parallels between this and advertising in general. I understand the sentiment and feel the same way about advertising's negative effects, and how predatory a lot of marketing is - especially marketing targeted toward children. But it's kind of "exit through the gift shop," right? All you wanted to do was ride the roller coaster, but now you've got all of these trinkets and refreshing beverages that you can touch and pick up, but you just can't have without paying. And to me that just seems part and parcel of modern capitalism, so I'm not really in favor of outlawing a particular flavor of it.
  - amelius 7y ago
    > And to me that just seems part and parcel of modern capitalism, so I'm not really in favor of outlawing a particular flavor of it. Net neutrality is also threatened by capitalism. Do you also want that gone?
rebuilder 7y ago
I thought where loot boxes are banned, it's because they're considered gambling.

Kiro 7y ago

That has nothing to do with the illegalization of loot boxes though. They ban it because of the gambling aspect, not because of the crate/key scheme.