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I don't know why this comment was downvoted. The core Microsoft software, like Office, from 20 years ago still work today. The data is still retrievable today
by TAForObvReasons 7y ago
I don't know why this comment was downvoted. The core Microsoft software, like Office, from 20 years ago still work today. The data is still retrievable today. In contrast, the recent wave of SaaS with poor data portability and various services shutting down represents a massive step backwards.
- darkwater 7y agoMaybe because half of HN audience is trying to sell some SaaS/IaaS and advocates for non-GNU opensource licenses? To be clear: these are IMO part of the reasons for what GP is saying.
- JustSomeNobody 7y agoIt’s always funny to me to read some of the posts and comments on HN. A lot of (most?) HNers are working to silo off and rent seek. Yet we see posts about how we lost software freedom here.
- sokoloff 7y agoRent seeking is trying to capture value without creating any. Most startups are trying to capture value after creating some, IMO. If you're tracking engaged users [or even growth of revenue and churn from individuals], you're probably not on a path towards rent seeking.
- hdfbdtbcdg 7y agoMS office 2010 on windows 7 still runs OK in a VM.
- pbhjpbhj 7y agoWhy not native LibreOffice? Does MS Office from 10 years ago offer something that LibreOffice doesn't?
- sokoloff 7y agoI believe all (most all?) of the MSOffice VBA automation doesn't work in LibreOffice.
- hdfbdtbcdg 7y agoSadly yes. I use LibreOffice where possible but sometimes perfect bug compatibility is needed.
- worble 7y agoWhy do you need a VM? I'm still running 2k3 office natively on Windows 10, no problems at all.
- wila 7y agoRunning 2k3 office outside of a container, vm or otherwise, is not recommended as it hasn't seen security patches in about a decade. Where you see no problems i can only think "Eeeks".
- Crinus 7y agoWhat sort of security issues do you expect Office 2003 to have that will affect you nowadays?
- hdfbdtbcdg 7y agoLoads. Simply loads. Office Macros execute by default in 2003 right? Hopefully no one is using the outlook from then as their mail client at least...
- wila 7y agoQuite a few of what you can see in this list [1]. [1] https://www.cvedetails.com/product/320/Microsoft-Office.html?vendor_id=26 https://www.cvedetails.com/product/320/Microsoft-Office.html...
- Crinus 7y agoYes but which of those apply specifically to Office 2003, on Windows 10 and will be exploited today in 2019?
- hdfbdtbcdg 7y agoBecause I don't want to run windows as my main OS?