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> Sometimes one firm called a security junk and another gave a triple-A rating deeming it supersafe. Doesn't this suggest that the ratings are providing close
by gniv 7y ago
> Sometimes one firm called a security junk and another gave a triple-A rating deeming it supersafe.
Doesn't this suggest that the ratings are providing close to zero signal?
- lonelappde 7y agoIt depends on each agency's historical performance (maybe only one is bad) and how often this discrepancy happens. Ratings are probabilities to be evaluated statistically.
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- patio11 7y agoInsufficient information to judge that to be the case; they rate millions of bonds and, statistically, they’ll almost certainly have every type of disagreement occasionally. The difference between AAA and junk isn’t 99 and 3 on a 100 point scale; it is somewhere in the neighborhood of 99.9 and 96.0 on the 100 point scale “Likelihood to not default within 1 year.” You’d need vastly more data points to firmly believe the conclusion “Their ratings are indistinguishable from being randomly generated.” There are people on Wall Street who can appreciate this math. A statement which is true and necessary but may not be kind: Wall Street does not allocate their talents towards producing journalism.
- imtringued 7y agoAs you ask more rating agencies the rating becomes more accurate. If you already know the correct rating and then intentionally pick a rating agency that would give a different score then yes it would provide zero signal.