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New business model: have an AI generate every chord progression in every tempo, release the "songs" on your own label, and sue everyone who releases a song afte

New business model: have an AI generate every chord progression in every tempo, release the "songs" on your own label, and sue everyone who releases a song after you.

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lostphilosopher 7y ago
Pattern Trolls
- auto 7y ago
  Slightly ironically an awesome band name.
  - sitkack 7y ago
    A Moiré Monsters - For the Love of Money.
Glyptodon 7y ago
I've always wondered if someone could copyright strike most of YouTube by having a channel filled with permutations of various sorts of ambient background noise.
- mhh__ 7y ago
  I think this is already happening. I could be wrong but I vaguely remember something along those lines
  - applecrazy 7y ago
    On a similar note, a video with ten hours of static was subject to 5 copyright notices: https://www.eff.org/takedowns/ten-hours-static-gets-five-copyright-notices https://www.eff.org/takedowns/ten-hours-static-gets-five-cop...
    - dmix 7y ago
      DMCA is a great success!
trevyn 7y ago
Is there a legal counter to this? Frivolous copyrighting?
- freehunter 7y ago
  There are tons of legal counters, almost any of which would be a slam dunk case for having the AI-generated company's copyright revoked and the company disbanded. But patent trolls are smart enough to have blazed a trail where you sue small time record labels that can't afford to fight you in court and are willing to settle. Any fight that goes to court, you just dismiss the suit to avoid losing and setting a precedent.
- greiskul 7y ago
  I think Independent Creation is a valid defense in copyright cases, unlike with patents.
wrs 7y ago
You’d need to show some likelihood of the defendant hearing the music they’re allegedly copying, though — and I sure wouldn’t listen to the channel you’re proposing!
froindt 7y ago
Unfortunately you'd be opening yourself up to lawsuits for any of your songs that have a passing resemblance to existing songs, since after all, you've created every chord progression and tempo! Maybe if you keep a low profile and insisted on NDA's for settlements, you wouldn't get sued as much for "stealing" from every piece of music made prior to your [Mega Album] dropping. I'd also recommend getting the copyright registered, but remaining out of every music database you possibly could, to enhance the obscurity of it all. Also, if you know someone is infringing on your work and you don't actively pursue it, you could lose your rights to the copyright, so you need to find a cabin in the woods to lay low for awhile until you're ready to sue everyone in existence.
- Corrado 7y ago
  Nah, just settle out of court for a percentage of the earnings of your "song". So, you get sued for one of your "songs" and they get 2.3% of your profits. Problem is that "song" has only earned you $0.000001.
greiskul 7y ago
Independent Creation is not covered by copyright I believe.

New business model: have an AI generate every chord progression in every tempo, release the "songs" on your own label, and sue everyone who releases a song after you.

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lostphilosopher 7y ago

Pattern Trolls

auto 7y ago
Slightly ironically an awesome band name.
- sitkack 7y ago
  A Moiré Monsters - For the Love of Money.

Glyptodon 7y ago

I've always wondered if someone could copyright strike most of YouTube by having a channel filled with permutations of various sorts of ambient background noise.

mhh__ 7y ago
I think this is already happening. I could be wrong but I vaguely remember something along those lines
- applecrazy 7y ago
  On a similar note, a video with ten hours of static was subject to 5 copyright notices: https://www.eff.org/takedowns/ten-hours-static-gets-five-copyright-notices https://www.eff.org/takedowns/ten-hours-static-gets-five-cop...
  - dmix 7y ago
    DMCA is a great success!

trevyn 7y ago

Is there a legal counter to this? Frivolous copyrighting?

freehunter 7y ago
There are tons of legal counters, almost any of which would be a slam dunk case for having the AI-generated company's copyright revoked and the company disbanded. But patent trolls are smart enough to have blazed a trail where you sue small time record labels that can't afford to fight you in court and are willing to settle. Any fight that goes to court, you just dismiss the suit to avoid losing and setting a precedent.
greiskul 7y ago
I think Independent Creation is a valid defense in copyright cases, unlike with patents.

wrs 7y ago

You’d need to show some likelihood of the defendant hearing the music they’re allegedly copying, though — and I sure wouldn’t listen to the channel you’re proposing!

froindt 7y ago

Unfortunately you'd be opening yourself up to lawsuits for any of your songs that have a passing resemblance to existing songs, since after all, you've created every chord progression and tempo! Maybe if you keep a low profile and insisted on NDA's for settlements, you wouldn't get sued as much for "stealing" from every piece of music made prior to your [Mega Album] dropping. I'd also recommend getting the copyright registered, but remaining out of every music database you possibly could, to enhance the obscurity of it all. Also, if you know someone is infringing on your work and you don't actively pursue it, you could lose your rights to the copyright, so you need to find a cabin in the woods to lay low for awhile until you're ready to sue everyone in existence.

Corrado 7y ago
Nah, just settle out of court for a percentage of the earnings of your "song". So, you get sued for one of your "songs" and they get 2.3% of your profits. Problem is that "song" has only earned you $0.000001.

greiskul 7y ago