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Google Discontinues Hangouts on Air
- floatingatoll 7y agoOP, what evidence did you view/receive/etc that led you to post this?
- bdcravens 7y agohttps://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7083786?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7083786?hl=en Discontinued August 1.
- mtmail 7y agoI found another article from June https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-hangouts-discontinued/313853/ https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-hangouts-disconti... "The classic Hangouts On Air streaming experience is going away later in 2019. For quick streaming, try YouTube.com/webcam"
- ProAm 7y agoI wish google would provide an idea of product supported lifetimes similar to the LTS releases we see from Ubuntu. Give us a product and tell it will be supported until at least XX/XX/XX date. I simply do not use google products beyond search and maps because I can't trust they'll be around without significant changes (gmail) or discontinuation.
- cauthon 7y agoWhat's the recommended gmail alternative for personal email?
- ProAm 7y agoFastMail
- eridius 7y agoI second the Fastmail recommendation. Not only has their service been great, but they're also actively working on improving email for everyone (for example with all their work on introducing and standardizing JMAP).
- rswail 7y agoI third the Fastmail recommendation. Just changed over to use their app on my phone as well, much better folder management etc than Apple's native app.
- eridius 7y agoI used to be in the "no webmail" camp until I started using Fastmail. I now find myself keeping a Safari pinned tab to their webmail and using it as my primary email interface. Also speaking of mobile apps, Fastmail actually supports push notifications for email in Apple Mail. I'm not aware of any other third party email provider that's ever done that (I believe Yahoo! has support for that but Apple did that themselves when the iPhone first came out).
- d33 7y ago(...) a company located in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FastMail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FastMail Big wall of NOPE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law#Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law#Australia
- Scoundreller 7y agoWish Mozilla would go down this road.
- m-p-3 7y agoOh I would pay for that. I was also looking at Librem One.
- jedberg 7y agoHonestly, Hotmail isn't too bad these days. I have to use it for a mail account I manage for someone else, and it's pretty on par with Gmail. Not quite there, but pretty close. And since it's from Microsoft, you know that it will be supported for a long time.
- JJMcJ 7y agoNow called Outlook, so you don't even have to worry about the slightly dubious @hotmail.com address.
- JeremyBanks 7y agoI think you mean "retro". ;)
- Smithalicious 7y agoI prefer "vintage"
- belltaco 7y agoVintage would be @aol.com
- 1-6 7y agoHaving an @hotmail address no longer makes you look prehistoric on a résumé. There are probably as much (or even more) stupid internet users on @gmail.
- Whack-kneed 7y agoGoing one step further you can have an archaic email address using Juno (still laying, not that you asked) or Bigfoot.com (still works but company resold many times)
- delusional 7y agoYour mail is probably the single most important service you have on the internet. Pay for something, or host it yourself.
- ceejayoz 7y agoHosting yourself is a good way to have half your sent emails never arrive. Own the domain name, but let one of the big players handle deliverability for you.
- v7p1Qbt1im 7y agoThis. I use my own domain names with gsuite and protonmail.
- pixelperfect 7y agoThat's actually the reason why I use Gmail instead of switching to a smaller email service - it's "too big to fail," I don't think Gmail will be discontinued for as long as Google exists, even if it became somewhat unprofitable, due to the outrage and class action lawsuits that would result.
- jjeaff 7y agoPaying for it has its risks as well. If you are unable to access for an extended amount of time (injury, travel, etc) and your payment method becomes invalid, it could cause your account to be shut down.
- nine_k 7y agoThis is a valid concern. I would pay for a year in advance at least.
- m-p-3 7y agoHosting an email server in these days with DMARC, SPF, DKIM and all those mail filtering blacklist is is world of pain but that's the price to pay for reduced spam I guess. I wish there was a modern protocol equivalent with authentication builtin.
- vzaliva 7y agoprotonmail
- nothrabannosir 7y agoSeconded, and it sends a great signal to the market that people value privacy. With actual money.
- antisemiotic 7y agoAlso another Europe-based provider: Runbox.
- Whack-kneed 7y agoTutanota.com
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- praneshp 7y agoFastmail. I can vouch for them, having used them since 2014, including after a recent re-design.
- urda 7y agoI just can't consider Google Products for any production use cases anymore.
- Sendotsh 7y agoIs there anything comparable? I watch multiple “shows” that use Hangouts on Air (Adafruit Show & Tell, Makercast, etc), I wonder what they’ll use now.
- johnl1479 7y agoFrom https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7083786?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7083786?hl=en: https://youtube.com/webcam https://youtube.com/webcam
- Sendotsh 7y agoGives a 404 for me, but my understanding is that YouTube Webcam is streaming of your own webcam and that’s it. The feature that made Hangouts Live so good was that groups of people could instantly stream together from anywhere in the world, and the focus shifted to whoever was talking. It made multi-person casts incredibly simple and didn’t require having someone running OBS and managing the stream.
- stcredzero 7y agoHangouts on Air has a bit of functionality which a lot of streamers value highly: The picture will automatically change to the speaker. Is there any other software that does this as well as Hangouts on Air does?
- myth_drannon 7y agoZoom
- stcredzero 7y agoZoom has a lot of UI/UX problems
- floatingatoll 7y agoCompared to what?
- steve19 7y agoCompared to any app that does not secretly install insecure spyware.
- saagarjha 7y agoBased on who's speaking? FaceTime kinda does this.
- charlesju 7y agoWhy can't you use Google Meet and stream it to YouTube?
- thedanbob 7y agoI used Hangouts on Air to live stream several weddings. It was great because you could set it up ahead of time, send out the private link to whoever you want, and the link would work both during the event and after - no need to upload the recorded video. Oh well, time to look for something else now.
- RandyRanderson 7y agoThat's just Gross misconduct.
- Gys 7y agoThere was a Hangouts on Air ? Its funny that some of these discontinued Google products seem to get more attention at their ending then at their start.
- bdcravens 7y agoFor a little while there were startups being built around it even (AirPair comes to mind, though they eventually switched to Slack, and now is more or less defunct)
- habitue 7y agoOh interesting, I didn't realize airpair was basically dead. Looks like last twitter post was in 2016, and their articles all have comments from 4 years ago
- plorntus 7y agoTheres an entire site dedicated to listing products killed by google: https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ tons of products there that I didn't know existed.
- syshum 7y agoI am betting Stadia is on that list within 24 months of launch
- helper 7y agoI think hangout meet live streaming is supposed to be the replacement for hangouts on air[1]. [1]: https://support.google.com/meet/answer/9055488 https://support.google.com/meet/answer/9055488
- joelx 7y agohttps://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html Sadly this more than doubles the price of the per user package and doesn't match on features.
- drivingmenuts 7y agoWas this a paid product? Was it heavily used?
- Urgo 7y agoNot a paid product, and "heavily used" maybe not, but was the only native(ish) way to live stream a group call to YouTube. You could live stream a podcast style show w/ no extra hardware or software, just your youtube/google account. It was was birthed out of Google+ so its not altogether surprising it got killed, but I was watching a live stream just last week that was using it.
- bobthepanda 7y agoAs an aside, that is a refreshingly simple blog theme.
- marcuskaz 7y agoWordPress Twenty Fifteen https://wordpress.org/themes/twentyfifteen/ https://wordpress.org/themes/twentyfifteen/
- pier25 7y agoI guess this opens up a market opportunity for an easy to use video group chat with a youtube integration.