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There is no such thing as a "recruitment list" to be removed from, unless you remove all traces of yourself from the internet. Sourcers don't work from a shared

There is no such thing as a "recruitment list" to be removed from, unless you remove all traces of yourself from the internet. Sourcers don't work from a shared list. Also, you might be surprised to hear how often people will say "no" at one point, and later say "yes." Circumstances change. Asking again later works.

kkapelon 7y ago
There is certainly a recruitment list. I get emails from Amazon that start with the sentence "We already know that you applied in 2012, do you want to try again?" or something similar. I have asked twice to remove me from their applicant database.
- alexbanks 7y ago
  Not sure it works the way you're thinking. Obviously they keep a record of everyone that interviews, but I seriously doubt they look at that list before deciding to email you. There is no list of candidates to remove yourself from, as every recruiter will just troll github/linkedin/facebook/twitter and email you.
ethagnawl 7y ago
> Sourcers don't work from a shared list. Presumably they do have a referral database, though. I can't remember the exact verbiage, and can't be bothered to go digging for the emails, but I know I've received several similar solicits after asking to be removed from their referral pipeline.
- benburleson 7y ago
  Amazon recruiters don't talk to each other at all. I actually applied for a position from a local ad, and shortly heard from a recruiter. I assumed it was in reference to my application, but it turns out it wasn't and this recruiter had no positions availably locally (only in Seattle). It's a shit-show.
  - aripickar 7y ago
    Yeah, amazon recruiters seem almost intentionally siloed off from one another. I’ve been contacted by a recruiter recently even though I have already signed my offer and start there in a couple weeks.
    - ben509 7y ago
      I worked at AWS and interviewed SDE candidates, and thus had to enter updates into the system that manages the whole hiring process. They have interview notes going back to the company's founding. (FWIW, we could only view prior notes on people we were interviewing, the permissions are quite strict.) The recruiters are absolutely using the same system, they have to enter all their contacts with candidates in order for the interviewers to schedule an interview. So if you're getting contacts while you've signed an offer, I'd suspect they're just spamming a list and only checking the system if people bite.
notyourwork 7y ago
Yep it is simply a numbers game for recruiters. I've always wondered what their percentages are. They have to be extremely low.
- pmiller2 7y ago
  Percentages as in how many candidates do they need to source to get one that eventually accepts an offer? I’d wager 1000:1 or thereabouts.
  - notyourwork 7y ago
    To hire a candidate or interview a candidate? 1000:1 could be reasonable, I have no clue.
    - pmiller2 7y ago
      Hire.
  - nixgeek 7y ago
    20:1 or thereabouts as far as people who take an informational call to those who pass the loop and accept.
scarface74 7y ago
What’s crazy is that I have a very light LinkedIn profile, what I do have shows I graduated from a no name college over 20 years ago and that I am your bog standard Microsoft Enterprise Developer/Architect. Yet and still Facebook/Google recruiters are “impressed” with my profile and would glad to have me interview. They are no better than the foreign spammer recruiters. Ironically enough, the two companies that I do have a semblance of qualifications for - Amazon as an AWS Solutions Architect or sales role and maybe Microsoft never reach out to me. Especially since my profile is fairly buzzword compliant with the profile of an AWS SA.
- goostavos 7y ago
  Ha! I similarly "impress" recruiters with my LinkedIn as well, which is amazing, because I've gone out of my way to make it as useless as possible. For instance, I list my current title as "brogrammer." All past history is similar one-liner descriptions. Yet recruiters remain "impressed", and think all my "skills" (not listed) are a great fit for "shaping the future of [X]"
  - pmiller2 7y ago
    When I’m feeling particularly trollish, I sometimes ask those recruiters “what specifically impressed you?” I have yet to get an answer.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      Yes did my extensive experience writing line of business and software as a service CRUD apps in C# give you a hint about how well I would do at reversing a binary tree on a whiteboard?
  - rhizome 7y ago
    "impress" is just a default in the mass-mail, linked-in scraping salesforce plugin they use.

kkapelon 7y ago

There is certainly a recruitment list. I get emails from Amazon that start with the sentence "We already know that you applied in 2012, do you want to try again?" or something similar. I have asked twice to remove me from their applicant database.

alexbanks 7y ago
Not sure it works the way you're thinking. Obviously they keep a record of everyone that interviews, but I seriously doubt they look at that list before deciding to email you. There is no list of candidates to remove yourself from, as every recruiter will just troll github/linkedin/facebook/twitter and email you.

ethagnawl 7y ago

> Sourcers don't work from a shared list. Presumably they do have a referral database, though. I can't remember the exact verbiage, and can't be bothered to go digging for the emails, but I know I've received several similar solicits after asking to be removed from their referral pipeline.

benburleson 7y ago
Amazon recruiters don't talk to each other at all. I actually applied for a position from a local ad, and shortly heard from a recruiter. I assumed it was in reference to my application, but it turns out it wasn't and this recruiter had no positions availably locally (only in Seattle). It's a shit-show.
- aripickar 7y ago
  Yeah, amazon recruiters seem almost intentionally siloed off from one another. I’ve been contacted by a recruiter recently even though I have already signed my offer and start there in a couple weeks.
  - ben509 7y ago
    I worked at AWS and interviewed SDE candidates, and thus had to enter updates into the system that manages the whole hiring process. They have interview notes going back to the company's founding. (FWIW, we could only view prior notes on people we were interviewing, the permissions are quite strict.) The recruiters are absolutely using the same system, they have to enter all their contacts with candidates in order for the interviewers to schedule an interview. So if you're getting contacts while you've signed an offer, I'd suspect they're just spamming a list and only checking the system if people bite.

notyourwork 7y ago

Yep it is simply a numbers game for recruiters. I've always wondered what their percentages are. They have to be extremely low.

pmiller2 7y ago
Percentages as in how many candidates do they need to source to get one that eventually accepts an offer? I’d wager 1000:1 or thereabouts.
- notyourwork 7y ago
  To hire a candidate or interview a candidate? 1000:1 could be reasonable, I have no clue.
  - pmiller2 7y ago
    Hire.
- nixgeek 7y ago
  20:1 or thereabouts as far as people who take an informational call to those who pass the loop and accept.

scarface74 7y ago

What’s crazy is that I have a very light LinkedIn profile, what I do have shows I graduated from a no name college over 20 years ago and that I am your bog standard Microsoft Enterprise Developer/Architect. Yet and still Facebook/Google recruiters are “impressed” with my profile and would glad to have me interview. They are no better than the foreign spammer recruiters. Ironically enough, the two companies that I do have a semblance of qualifications for - Amazon as an AWS Solutions Architect or sales role and maybe Microsoft never reach out to me. Especially since my profile is fairly buzzword compliant with the profile of an AWS SA.

goostavos 7y ago
Ha! I similarly "impress" recruiters with my LinkedIn as well, which is amazing, because I've gone out of my way to make it as useless as possible. For instance, I list my current title as "brogrammer." All past history is similar one-liner descriptions. Yet recruiters remain "impressed", and think all my "skills" (not listed) are a great fit for "shaping the future of [X]"
- pmiller2 7y ago
  When I’m feeling particularly trollish, I sometimes ask those recruiters “what specifically impressed you?” I have yet to get an answer.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Yes did my extensive experience writing line of business and software as a service CRUD apps in C# give you a hint about how well I would do at reversing a binary tree on a whiteboard?
- rhizome 7y ago
  "impress" is just a default in the mass-mail, linked-in scraping salesforce plugin they use.