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The worst thing about this in my opinion is that as much as I personally dislike Trump, the WaPo has lowered the quality of its journalism tremendously over the

The worst thing about this in my opinion is that as much as I personally dislike Trump, the WaPo has lowered the quality of its journalism tremendously over the past decade and so unfortunately Trump’s critiques of the WaPo are not lacking in substance. Bezos should have stepped in to make certain that the WaPo improve the quality of its journalism even if the easiest path to profits is just to provide entertaining stories to the #resist partisans. There is plenty to write serious investigative journalism about that will have the consequence of weakening Trump politically (if that is the goal) so there was no need to become a tabloid. Arguably the WaPo’s reporting on Saudi Arabia led to the grudge match that culminated in outing Bezos’ philandering, and the subsequent major decrease in Bezos’ wealth. KSA is led by an abhorrent group of royals, but the WaPo’s coverage of the disappearance of khashoggi was tabloidesque and immature.

brown9-2 7y ago
What does any of that have to do with Amazon?
- resters 7y ago
  Bezos also owns Amazon. It shouldn’t really be relevant but unfortunately it is.
  - Supermancho 7y ago
    > In Pentagon Contract Fight, Amazon Has Foes in High Places > Bezos should have stepped in to make certain that the WaPo improve the quality of its journalism The relevance is that this waffling over Oracle and AWS is born of an interview in WaPo? It has nothing to do with Amazon. Especially when you're commenting on the quality of WaPo journalism. The story exists without WaPo, but not without Amazon.
    - resters 7y ago
      WaPo has been weaponized against Trump by Bezos, or Bezos failed to stop it. For some reason doing solid investigative journalism is not a priority and instead rallying partisans around talking points and feel good, in-group stories takes precedence. FWIW I personally loathe Trump and would love to see him removed from power thanks to some solid investigative journalism.
      - kevinconaway 7y ago
        David Fahrenthold at the Post won the Pulitzer for his investigative journalism in to Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/washington-posts-david-fahrenthold-wins-pulitzer-prize-for-dogged-reporting-of-trumps-philanthropy/2017/04/10/dd535d2e-1dfb-11e7-be2a-3a1fb24d4671_story.html?utm_term=.4f902e41213f https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/washington-po...
        resters 7y ago
        Significant, but two small blips in a sea of front page stories about rude remarks or other tabloid style drivel.
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chillwaves 7y ago
>WaPo’s coverage of the disappearance of khashoggi was tabloidesque and immature. One of their writers was murdered in a foriegn embassy on foreign soil by the royal family of SA. Tortured and murdered, and dismemembered. That story deserves quite a bit of attention. I'd also like to hear your recommendation on high quailty journalism since WaPo does not meet your standard.
- resters 7y ago
  There hasn’t been any real information about what happened to the journalist, or about any other entanglements he may have been involved in. There is a good chance KSA wanted him dead, but most in the US do not take seriously the question of whether the US stance toward Saudi is flawed. The US just sold KSA massive amounts of weaponry. The Intercept has solid journalism. The New Yorker does also, some of the time. Journalistic standards have been abandoned by the major news orgs in favor of in group targeted stories that are activism oriented (in the left vs right partisan fray) and not truth seeking. It has been clear for a long time that the WaPo and NYT are playing partisan politics and are cashing in their previously earned journalistic credibility to do so. Both papers wasted the first few years of Trump’s presidency with front page stores about his manners and buffoonery, with no serious investigative work until the story about Trump’s inheritance earlier this year. It’s as if the reporters think their job is to “discover” the blindingly obvious fact that Trump is crass again and again while ignoring the war crimes and bipartisan evil that has been progressing nicely since Trump took office.
  - chillwaves 7y ago
    > There hasn’t been any real information about what happened to the journalist You and I live in different realities. There is conclusive evidence as to what happened if you bothered to look. I can only assume you are not speaking in good faith. Re: the rest of your post, AGAIN if you bother to look, there is quite a bit of investigative journalism of substance regarding Trump's misdeeds. Seriously decades of it. I don't know what to say except to try using Google, the information is out there.

brown9-2 7y ago

What does any of that have to do with Amazon?

resters 7y ago
Bezos also owns Amazon. It shouldn’t really be relevant but unfortunately it is.
- Supermancho 7y ago
  > In Pentagon Contract Fight, Amazon Has Foes in High Places > Bezos should have stepped in to make certain that the WaPo improve the quality of its journalism The relevance is that this waffling over Oracle and AWS is born of an interview in WaPo? It has nothing to do with Amazon. Especially when you're commenting on the quality of WaPo journalism. The story exists without WaPo, but not without Amazon.
  - resters 7y ago
    WaPo has been weaponized against Trump by Bezos, or Bezos failed to stop it. For some reason doing solid investigative journalism is not a priority and instead rallying partisans around talking points and feel good, in-group stories takes precedence. FWIW I personally loathe Trump and would love to see him removed from power thanks to some solid investigative journalism.
    - kevinconaway 7y ago
      David Fahrenthold at the Post won the Pulitzer for his investigative journalism in to Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/washington-posts-david-fahrenthold-wins-pulitzer-prize-for-dogged-reporting-of-trumps-philanthropy/2017/04/10/dd535d2e-1dfb-11e7-be2a-3a1fb24d4671_story.html?utm_term=.4f902e41213f https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/washington-po...
      - resters 7y ago
        Significant, but two small blips in a sea of front page stories about rude remarks or other tabloid style drivel.
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chillwaves 7y ago

>WaPo’s coverage of the disappearance of khashoggi was tabloidesque and immature. One of their writers was murdered in a foriegn embassy on foreign soil by the royal family of SA. Tortured and murdered, and dismemembered. That story deserves quite a bit of attention. I'd also like to hear your recommendation on high quailty journalism since WaPo does not meet your standard.

resters 7y ago
There hasn’t been any real information about what happened to the journalist, or about any other entanglements he may have been involved in. There is a good chance KSA wanted him dead, but most in the US do not take seriously the question of whether the US stance toward Saudi is flawed. The US just sold KSA massive amounts of weaponry. The Intercept has solid journalism. The New Yorker does also, some of the time. Journalistic standards have been abandoned by the major news orgs in favor of in group targeted stories that are activism oriented (in the left vs right partisan fray) and not truth seeking. It has been clear for a long time that the WaPo and NYT are playing partisan politics and are cashing in their previously earned journalistic credibility to do so. Both papers wasted the first few years of Trump’s presidency with front page stores about his manners and buffoonery, with no serious investigative work until the story about Trump’s inheritance earlier this year. It’s as if the reporters think their job is to “discover” the blindingly obvious fact that Trump is crass again and again while ignoring the war crimes and bipartisan evil that has been progressing nicely since Trump took office.
- chillwaves 7y ago
  > There hasn’t been any real information about what happened to the journalist You and I live in different realities. There is conclusive evidence as to what happened if you bothered to look. I can only assume you are not speaking in good faith. Re: the rest of your post, AGAIN if you bother to look, there is quite a bit of investigative journalism of substance regarding Trump's misdeeds. Seriously decades of it. I don't know what to say except to try using Google, the information is out there.