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Since 2017? It's only 2019. Am I missing something?

mempko 7y ago
It's getting much hotter every year and the likely hood of breaking a record increases. So don't be surprised to see the same story in 2020.
- shados 7y ago
  Fine, so is it highest demand since "ever" with 2017 being the last record, or is it just that 2016 had even higher?
  - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
    No, this is the highest demand since 2017, with 2017 being slightly higher. Which is pretty lame. I'm with alexilliamson. So it's the highest in the last two years? Color me unimpressed. I guess it's just the consequences of recency bias running amuck. "2017? That was so five-minutes-ago."
- recursive 7y ago
  Huh? This story is about the highest electricity usage in 2 years. If it's getting hotter every year, we'd be seeing a new record.
  - tjbiddle 7y ago
    OP should've said the running average is getting hotter every year. Next year may end up colder, but the average temperature of 2020-2024 will very likely be hotter than 2015-2019.
repiret 7y ago
Amusingly the headline could also be written “2018 and 2019 electricity demand lower than 2017”
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  The absolute peak demand in 2019 was slightly lower than the absolute peak demand in 2017. That's a bit different.
- nostromo 7y ago
  That's a boring headline. Also a boring headline: "US oil use peaked fourteen years ago, in 2005." And yet, it's also true. https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_oil_consumption https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_oil_consumption So is, "US per capita energy use has been falling since 2007." https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-01/americans-electricity-use-just-keeps-falling https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-01/americ... In order to get clicks, you have to frame everything in alarmist terms.
  - craftinator 7y ago
    A .gov site is packing headlines to get more clicks? Why do you think that is?
    - brink 7y ago
      1 click = 1 tax
      - polynomial 7y ago
        1 doge = 1 doge
    - adventured 7y ago
      Because at the bottom it says this: "Principal contributor: Mark Morey" If you're going to write something, it's nice to have it read by an audience. In the grand scheme of anything alarmist (especially these days), this headline is fairly benign. Still, I'm sure the author likes to have their contributed content read, paid attention to, like any normal person would. So you come up with a headline that differentiates, stands out in some manner, even if it's reaching a bit.
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hanoz 7y ago
> Am I missing something? You may be. Firstly the interval size. Highest year since two years ago is unimpressive, highest day since two years ago is more (still not very) impressive. Secondly this is coming from "Today in Energy" which appears to be a journal of the minutiae of energy production and consumption. I don't think the target audience is meant to be alarmed, just mildly interested.
jbeales 7y ago
There was a big heatwave in 2017. I can't find documentation, but "highest since 2017" might actually mean "Second-Highest Ever"

It's getting much hotter every year and the likely hood of breaking a record increases. So don't be surprised to see the same story in 2020.

shados 7y ago
Fine, so is it highest demand since "ever" with 2017 being the last record, or is it just that 2016 had even higher?
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  No, this is the highest demand since 2017, with 2017 being slightly higher. Which is pretty lame. I'm with alexilliamson. So it's the highest in the last two years? Color me unimpressed. I guess it's just the consequences of recency bias running amuck. "2017? That was so five-minutes-ago."
recursive 7y ago
Huh? This story is about the highest electricity usage in 2 years. If it's getting hotter every year, we'd be seeing a new record.
- tjbiddle 7y ago
  OP should've said the running average is getting hotter every year. Next year may end up colder, but the average temperature of 2020-2024 will very likely be hotter than 2015-2019.

repiret 7y ago

Amusingly the headline could also be written “2018 and 2019 electricity demand lower than 2017”

AnimalMuppet 7y ago
The absolute peak demand in 2019 was slightly lower than the absolute peak demand in 2017. That's a bit different.
nostromo 7y ago
That's a boring headline. Also a boring headline: "US oil use peaked fourteen years ago, in 2005." And yet, it's also true. https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_oil_consumption https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_oil_consumption So is, "US per capita energy use has been falling since 2007." https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-01/americans-electricity-use-just-keeps-falling https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-01/americ... In order to get clicks, you have to frame everything in alarmist terms.
- craftinator 7y ago
  A .gov site is packing headlines to get more clicks? Why do you think that is?
  - brink 7y ago
    1 click = 1 tax
    - polynomial 7y ago
      1 doge = 1 doge
  - adventured 7y ago
    Because at the bottom it says this: "Principal contributor: Mark Morey" If you're going to write something, it's nice to have it read by an audience. In the grand scheme of anything alarmist (especially these days), this headline is fairly benign. Still, I'm sure the author likes to have their contributed content read, paid attention to, like any normal person would. So you come up with a headline that differentiates, stands out in some manner, even if it's reaching a bit.
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hanoz 7y ago

> Am I missing something? You may be. Firstly the interval size. Highest year since two years ago is unimpressive, highest day since two years ago is more (still not very) impressive. Secondly this is coming from "Today in Energy" which appears to be a journal of the minutiae of energy production and consumption. I don't think the target audience is meant to be alarmed, just mildly interested.

jbeales 7y ago

There was a big heatwave in 2017. I can't find documentation, but "highest since 2017" might actually mean "Second-Highest Ever"