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I have an pre-touchbar macbook pro on my desk that I've been using as an in-place workstation. For some reason, I pulled it out of its place and opened it up t

I have an pre-touchbar macbook pro on my desk that I've been using as an in-place workstation. For some reason, I pulled it out of its place and opened it up this past week, and I was blown away by the improved typing experience. I think that I'll be upgrading back to the old one going forward. And I promise that the next laptop I buy (or my company buys for me) won't have a touch bar or a butterfly keyboard.

foobarian 7y ago
Devs at our company are starting to flee to Dell/Linux. Nice keyboards, screens and 64GB of RAM.
- romaaeterna 7y ago
  It's bizarre to me that Apple has never understood that computers are a highly recommended product. The reason that Apple laptops are popular is that the tech crowd is highly loyal and recommends macs to all their friends, parents, grandparents, when asked. And the tech crowd provides every hardware forum in existence with lots and lots of free Apple advertising. It was never about Apple having better marketing. It was about Apple owning tech loyalty. When the macbook is no longer the favored dev machine, Apple is going to lose a lot of market share.
  - privateSFacct 7y ago
    We’ve gone dell and lenovo - not amazing but the gap is much smaller I think
  - jimbokun 7y ago
    This was an early harbinger of Apple's return to prominence: http://www.paulgraham.com/mac.html http://www.paulgraham.com/mac.html
vanilla_nut 7y ago
I used a 2017 at work for a year and eventually decided to move back to a 2015 -- I just couldn't do the keyboard any more. I also recently purchased a refurbished 2015 with top tier specs as a personal laptop. Apple has definitely lost out on thousands of dollars of revenue from just me due to the touchbar/butterfly keyboard feel/butterfly keyboard reliability/usb-c only decisions. And don't even get me started on my inability to replace my iPhone SE with a decent, small phone.

foobarian 7y ago

Devs at our company are starting to flee to Dell/Linux. Nice keyboards, screens and 64GB of RAM.

romaaeterna 7y ago
It's bizarre to me that Apple has never understood that computers are a highly recommended product. The reason that Apple laptops are popular is that the tech crowd is highly loyal and recommends macs to all their friends, parents, grandparents, when asked. And the tech crowd provides every hardware forum in existence with lots and lots of free Apple advertising. It was never about Apple having better marketing. It was about Apple owning tech loyalty. When the macbook is no longer the favored dev machine, Apple is going to lose a lot of market share.
- privateSFacct 7y ago
  We’ve gone dell and lenovo - not amazing but the gap is much smaller I think
- jimbokun 7y ago
  This was an early harbinger of Apple's return to prominence: http://www.paulgraham.com/mac.html http://www.paulgraham.com/mac.html

vanilla_nut 7y ago

I used a 2017 at work for a year and eventually decided to move back to a 2015 -- I just couldn't do the keyboard any more. I also recently purchased a refurbished 2015 with top tier specs as a personal laptop. Apple has definitely lost out on thousands of dollars of revenue from just me due to the touchbar/butterfly keyboard feel/butterfly keyboard reliability/usb-c only decisions. And don't even get me started on my inability to replace my iPhone SE with a decent, small phone.