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Okay, new startup idea: dating website that uses AI to detect when the other person is using AI to make themselves look better.

by mabbo 7y ago

itronitron 7y ago
I expect it will have a very low false positive rate.
dsfyu404ed 7y ago
Your AI will be out-competed by an algorithm something like this: If (hasboobs) {return true} else if (no_shirt and no_fish and no_beer) {return true} Basically all women are photo-shopping their pics. Any man posting a shirtless pic that isn't an unflattering pic from a fishing trip is photo-shopping their pics. This holds for very loose definitions of "all". It's an arms race. Eventually I think it will be expected that people photoshop their pics.
- SiempreViernes 7y ago
  Ah yes, good old true-enough-that-five-examples-found-in-afternoon "all".
- lucasmullens 7y ago
  > Basically all women are photo-shopping their pics. What? Not a chance, unless you consider an instagram filter "photoshopping", and even then, no. Certainly not "all".
ww520 7y ago
Just run the process in reverse between the before and after plastic surgery to derive the detection net.
Scoundreller 7y ago
Can’t I just keep re-sending my AI’d profile to it until it doesn’t think it’s been AI’d? Kinda like a system that can rule out all the wrong answers can figure out the right answer with enough horsepower?
ravenstine 7y ago
I'm so glad I quit dating for good at the time I did. All the annoying Snapchat filters were bad enough. I wonder how much all this AI will affect societal trust. If we're all just expecting that we're constantly lying to each other to get things, might we further devolve into a very low-trust society?
- mwilliaams 7y ago
  All dating or just online/app dating?
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- rargulati 7y ago
  In the book "The Elephant in the Brain", there's an interesting observation that increased lying and politicking was necessary selection pressure for increased human intelligence. Similarly, I wonder if our increasingly low-trust, hyperconnected society will cause us to adapt (evolutionarily) in new and interesting ways. Obviously, all of this happens way faster than we evolve, and we'll need better tooling or cultural norms to deal with this stuff.
- soulofmischief 7y ago
  Did you quit because you found someone, or quit because you gave up? Asking for a friend.
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- mhh__ 7y ago
  Given the way that certain public figures are using it, moving to a low-trust model can only be a good thing at some level.
fortran77 7y ago
Or a dating site where you have to go get your photo taken from standard angles at standard lighting, and get your height and weight verified. They can set up mobile photo studios at various places so people can go get registered.
- ProAm 7y ago
  I think you just described meeting people in real life.
- ravenstine 7y ago
  I posted basically that idea in an earlier thread last year. My idea was to have a hybrid between an old school matchmaking service and online dating. This is what I was thinking: - Every major region has an office where new users can go, have their photos taken by a professional photographer, and have their stats verified. These are the only photos allowed. The photographers should try to make people look as good as reasonably possible without deceiving angles or photoshop. There would of course be some fee to doing this, which would hopefully deter bots and scam artists. This location could also be a hangout where singles can meet each other. - People are interviewed, and the interviewer writes a short paragraph that describes the person to other users. This keeps users from giving away too much information on their profile or making lists of demands. - Users can only be seen as long as they are active. If they're inactive/offline, it's as if they don't exist. That way people don't waste their time sifting through profiles that either have been long since dead or are being used by people casually. - If a user hasn't initiated any contacts within a time frame, maybe a month or two, the user is considered "not serious" and they'll have to pay a small fee to continue. - There would be no personality tests or algorithms based on looks. (if I remember correctly, paying for OkCupid could expose you to "more attractive" people)
0xDEFC0DE 7y ago
It's then later acquired by a US defense contractor upon vague terms that reference a future AI war.
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zubair_io 7y ago
#nofilter - Honest online dating. :-D

Okay, new startup idea: dating website that uses AI to detect when the other person is using AI to make themselves look better.

by mabbo 7y ago

Okay, new startup idea: dating website that uses AI to detect when the other person is using AI to make themselves look better.

itronitron 7y ago

I expect it will have a very low false positive rate.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

Your AI will be out-competed by an algorithm something like this: If (hasboobs) {return true} else if (no_shirt and no_fish and no_beer) {return true} Basically all women are photo-shopping their pics. Any man posting a shirtless pic that isn't an unflattering pic from a fishing trip is photo-shopping their pics. This holds for very loose definitions of "all". It's an arms race. Eventually I think it will be expected that people photoshop their pics.

SiempreViernes 7y ago
Ah yes, good old true-enough-that-five-examples-found-in-afternoon "all".
lucasmullens 7y ago
> Basically all women are photo-shopping their pics. What? Not a chance, unless you consider an instagram filter "photoshopping", and even then, no. Certainly not "all".

ww520 7y ago

Just run the process in reverse between the before and after plastic surgery to derive the detection net.

Scoundreller 7y ago

Can’t I just keep re-sending my AI’d profile to it until it doesn’t think it’s been AI’d? Kinda like a system that can rule out all the wrong answers can figure out the right answer with enough horsepower?

ravenstine 7y ago

I'm so glad I quit dating for good at the time I did. All the annoying Snapchat filters were bad enough. I wonder how much all this AI will affect societal trust. If we're all just expecting that we're constantly lying to each other to get things, might we further devolve into a very low-trust society?

mwilliaams 7y ago
All dating or just online/app dating?
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  [deleted]
rargulati 7y ago
In the book "The Elephant in the Brain", there's an interesting observation that increased lying and politicking was necessary selection pressure for increased human intelligence. Similarly, I wonder if our increasingly low-trust, hyperconnected society will cause us to adapt (evolutionarily) in new and interesting ways. Obviously, all of this happens way faster than we evolve, and we'll need better tooling or cultural norms to deal with this stuff.
soulofmischief 7y ago
Did you quit because you found someone, or quit because you gave up? Asking for a friend.
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mhh__ 7y ago
Given the way that certain public figures are using it, moving to a low-trust model can only be a good thing at some level.

fortran77 7y ago

Or a dating site where you have to go get your photo taken from standard angles at standard lighting, and get your height and weight verified. They can set up mobile photo studios at various places so people can go get registered.

ProAm 7y ago
I think you just described meeting people in real life.
ravenstine 7y ago
I posted basically that idea in an earlier thread last year. My idea was to have a hybrid between an old school matchmaking service and online dating. This is what I was thinking: - Every major region has an office where new users can go, have their photos taken by a professional photographer, and have their stats verified. These are the only photos allowed. The photographers should try to make people look as good as reasonably possible without deceiving angles or photoshop. There would of course be some fee to doing this, which would hopefully deter bots and scam artists. This location could also be a hangout where singles can meet each other. - People are interviewed, and the interviewer writes a short paragraph that describes the person to other users. This keeps users from giving away too much information on their profile or making lists of demands. - Users can only be seen as long as they are active. If they're inactive/offline, it's as if they don't exist. That way people don't waste their time sifting through profiles that either have been long since dead or are being used by people casually. - If a user hasn't initiated any contacts within a time frame, maybe a month or two, the user is considered "not serious" and they'll have to pay a small fee to continue. - There would be no personality tests or algorithms based on looks. (if I remember correctly, paying for OkCupid could expose you to "more attractive" people)

0xDEFC0DE 7y ago

It's then later acquired by a US defense contractor upon vague terms that reference a future AI war.

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zubair_io 7y ago

#nofilter - Honest online dating. :-D