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I love my iPad with the keyboard case. When I hook it up to an external monitor and my Kinesis keyboard, it’s even better. I’m looking forward to mouse support

I love my iPad with the keyboard case. When I hook it up to an external monitor and my Kinesis keyboard, it’s even better. I’m looking forward to mouse support in iOS 13. One of my favorite apps when it comes to the keyboard is Blink. It’s an SSH/Mosh client with a limited local shell. I use it to build a Jekyll site on an EC2 instance. Blink supports multi-monitor, so I can have different shells on different screens. Multi-window in iOS 13 is going to be another game changer. This is the best device I’ve owned and I’m excited about what’s to come.

acollins1331 7y ago
You literally just described a really shitty laptop from like 1995. Woah guys my PC is so cool and I love it! I can plug in another monitor and soon it will support a mouse . Have you ever tried a real computer, saying an iPad is more useful than anything else is just wrong.
- detaro 7y ago
  What "really shitty laptop from like 2002" had the weight, the display, the battery lifetime, ... of an iPad Pro?
  - acollins1331 7y ago
    Sorry I had to edit my comment because I can't imagine a laptop from 2002 that doesn't support a mouse.
    - detaro 7y ago
      You continue to miss the point. The cool thing about the iPad is not that's a laptop. It's that it's a great device in it's own category, that also more and more can replace a laptop.
      - acollins1331 7y ago
        I'll take all the downvotes in the world from insane people who must have some mental block that makes them think they can do "more" on an iPad than a laptop. If your idea of doing more is being so weak you would give up mouse support and a real OS to shave off 1 lb of something to carry, then yeah an iPad does way more. They make laptops with touchscreens and great battery life too, bro. Where is your God now? I bet you had no idea.
      - _bear 7y ago
        In other words, all you do in use the iPad as a thin-client. Which a Chromebook could do. Which your phone could do. Which any of those laptops from 2002 could do.
      - AJ007 7y ago
        Between touch screen and the Apple Pencil I would say the mouse is the least important input device, unless you really want to play a first person shooter. If you are a keyboard centric developer then ideally everything is accessible by a keyboard shortcut. Several years back I used my iPad remoting in to my desktop exclusively for about half of the year. There are terrible ways, mediocre ways, and good ways to simulate mouse input with a touch screen. The critical difference between touch and mouse is that a mouse can precisely hit much smaller UI parts (which, a lot of people are going to have trouble seeing anyways.) The Apple Pencil effectively does this — though not with the keyboard mouse pairing most are used to. I’ve been using Clip Studio Paint on my iPad Pro for quite a while. Their iOS app is a 1:1 UI port from their desktop app. The app is basically Photoshop for illustrators and painters. It works way better than I would have predicted. Without the Apple Pencil, I don’t think the UI would be usable, but the Apple Pencil is the primary input device for the artist. I’m expecting the iPad to behave very much like a desktop/laptop soon. My bigger concern is all of the software charging by subscription, which is a lot easier to implement with iOS than MacOS/Windows/Linux (kind of ironic that the unsustainable 99 cent price points makes subscription the only viable revenue model.)
  - tomjen3 7y ago
    Does the display matter for a terminal application? As for battery and weight, you are talking about pluggin in various other devices that you presumably don't carry around, so it wouldn't make any difference if you plug it in to the power or not. If you often do carry it (without the other gear), then I can maybe see it, though you can buy a used small thinkpad that can easily run the terminal programs.
- dang 7y ago
  Could you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? We're trying for something different than that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
mehmetoguzderin 7y ago
The new Safari in iPadOS makes it possible to use Code Server (Visual Studio Code on browser) with keyboard. If you already spin an EC2 instance, it is definitely worth a try. This also gives hope about the upcoming Visual Studio Online and its compatibility with iPadOS.

acollins1331 7y ago

You literally just described a really shitty laptop from like 1995. Woah guys my PC is so cool and I love it! I can plug in another monitor and soon it will support a mouse . Have you ever tried a real computer, saying an iPad is more useful than anything else is just wrong.

detaro 7y ago
What "really shitty laptop from like 2002" had the weight, the display, the battery lifetime, ... of an iPad Pro?
- acollins1331 7y ago
  Sorry I had to edit my comment because I can't imagine a laptop from 2002 that doesn't support a mouse.
  - detaro 7y ago
    You continue to miss the point. The cool thing about the iPad is not that's a laptop. It's that it's a great device in it's own category, that also more and more can replace a laptop.
    - acollins1331 7y ago
      I'll take all the downvotes in the world from insane people who must have some mental block that makes them think they can do "more" on an iPad than a laptop. If your idea of doing more is being so weak you would give up mouse support and a real OS to shave off 1 lb of something to carry, then yeah an iPad does way more. They make laptops with touchscreens and great battery life too, bro. Where is your God now? I bet you had no idea.
    - _bear 7y ago
      In other words, all you do in use the iPad as a thin-client. Which a Chromebook could do. Which your phone could do. Which any of those laptops from 2002 could do.
    - AJ007 7y ago
      Between touch screen and the Apple Pencil I would say the mouse is the least important input device, unless you really want to play a first person shooter. If you are a keyboard centric developer then ideally everything is accessible by a keyboard shortcut. Several years back I used my iPad remoting in to my desktop exclusively for about half of the year. There are terrible ways, mediocre ways, and good ways to simulate mouse input with a touch screen. The critical difference between touch and mouse is that a mouse can precisely hit much smaller UI parts (which, a lot of people are going to have trouble seeing anyways.) The Apple Pencil effectively does this — though not with the keyboard mouse pairing most are used to. I’ve been using Clip Studio Paint on my iPad Pro for quite a while. Their iOS app is a 1:1 UI port from their desktop app. The app is basically Photoshop for illustrators and painters. It works way better than I would have predicted. Without the Apple Pencil, I don’t think the UI would be usable, but the Apple Pencil is the primary input device for the artist. I’m expecting the iPad to behave very much like a desktop/laptop soon. My bigger concern is all of the software charging by subscription, which is a lot easier to implement with iOS than MacOS/Windows/Linux (kind of ironic that the unsustainable 99 cent price points makes subscription the only viable revenue model.)
- tomjen3 7y ago
  Does the display matter for a terminal application? As for battery and weight, you are talking about pluggin in various other devices that you presumably don't carry around, so it wouldn't make any difference if you plug it in to the power or not. If you often do carry it (without the other gear), then I can maybe see it, though you can buy a used small thinkpad that can easily run the terminal programs.
dang 7y ago
Could you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? We're trying for something different than that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

mehmetoguzderin 7y ago

The new Safari in iPadOS makes it possible to use Code Server (Visual Studio Code on browser) with keyboard. If you already spin an EC2 instance, it is definitely worth a try. This also gives hope about the upcoming Visual Studio Online and its compatibility with iPadOS.