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I don't want your formatted html, nor does my client render it. You can attach screenshots or link to them. > There's no good reason to There's no good reason

I don't want your formatted html, nor does my client render it. You can attach screenshots or link to them. > There's no good reason to There's no good reason for using anything other than plaintext in email. You can use slack, riot, or other chatrooms for the rest.

glenneroo 7y ago
Our offices don't use any of that chatroom crud and I'm extremely thankful for the lack of extra imposed distractions, not to mention the horror stories of being reachable 24/7 because of Slack/Riot/etc. Why require another medium for communication when email works just fine? What is the point in joining a chatroom to talk to one person only to be spammed by everyone else in the room? For those cases where email is insufficient, walking over and talking or making a phone/video call are IMHO better.
- hunter2_ 7y ago
  > being reachable 24/7 Email and phone are in the same boat, or none of them if you simply turn off the alerts. > another medium for communication when email works just fine When the topic at hand can only be resolved by many round trips, chat is faster because you don't bounce through different interfaces to read vs type. > talk to one person only to be spammed by everyone else in the room Direct message, not a room. > walking over and talking or making a phone/video call That is much more likely (perhaps even guaranteed) to be an interrupt, while chat allows the recipient to choose precisely what things interrupt them.
- munmaek 7y ago
  Having slack doesn't necessarily mean having to be reachable 24/7. Chatrooms fill the use case of day-to-day chat and other more short-lived information. As for distractions, that comes down to bad work culture. Hacker News & Lobste.rs are far more distracting for me. I simply get around to slack/email when I get around to it, with the exception of my boss pinging me. Thankfully he only messages me for important things. If you email me I'm going to assume it's something actually important / something that will have some longevity vs some question on slack. Since people wear headphones due to idiotic open workspace culture, messaging someone on slack is far easier than walking up to them (unless your question is actually important/urgent, of which most are not). Your phone or video call better be very important. Those are blockers, especially video calls. I prefer to call the latter time-wasters since, well, they're almost always a complete waste of my time. The only useful video calls I've done are with syncing up with another developer, which I cannot do locally now that I work remotely. Aside from this I prefer leaving the luxury of video calls for my parents.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  > Why require another medium for communication when email works just fine? I’m guessing you’ve never actually worked with these chat clients yet? The difference is light and day. Of course there is annoying parts, but like plaintext email I guess, just having everyone write in the same format soothes the brain. And no awkward quotes or history in every damn email (because your client is going to mess up that thread!).

glenneroo 7y ago

Our offices don't use any of that chatroom crud and I'm extremely thankful for the lack of extra imposed distractions, not to mention the horror stories of being reachable 24/7 because of Slack/Riot/etc. Why require another medium for communication when email works just fine? What is the point in joining a chatroom to talk to one person only to be spammed by everyone else in the room? For those cases where email is insufficient, walking over and talking or making a phone/video call are IMHO better.

hunter2_ 7y ago
> being reachable 24/7 Email and phone are in the same boat, or none of them if you simply turn off the alerts. > another medium for communication when email works just fine When the topic at hand can only be resolved by many round trips, chat is faster because you don't bounce through different interfaces to read vs type. > talk to one person only to be spammed by everyone else in the room Direct message, not a room. > walking over and talking or making a phone/video call That is much more likely (perhaps even guaranteed) to be an interrupt, while chat allows the recipient to choose precisely what things interrupt them.
munmaek 7y ago
Having slack doesn't necessarily mean having to be reachable 24/7. Chatrooms fill the use case of day-to-day chat and other more short-lived information. As for distractions, that comes down to bad work culture. Hacker News & Lobste.rs are far more distracting for me. I simply get around to slack/email when I get around to it, with the exception of my boss pinging me. Thankfully he only messages me for important things. If you email me I'm going to assume it's something actually important / something that will have some longevity vs some question on slack. Since people wear headphones due to idiotic open workspace culture, messaging someone on slack is far easier than walking up to them (unless your question is actually important/urgent, of which most are not). Your phone or video call better be very important. Those are blockers, especially video calls. I prefer to call the latter time-wasters since, well, they're almost always a complete waste of my time. The only useful video calls I've done are with syncing up with another developer, which I cannot do locally now that I work remotely. Aside from this I prefer leaving the luxury of video calls for my parents.
Aeolun 7y ago
> Why require another medium for communication when email works just fine? I’m guessing you’ve never actually worked with these chat clients yet? The difference is light and day. Of course there is annoying parts, but like plaintext email I guess, just having everyone write in the same format soothes the brain. And no awkward quotes or history in every damn email (because your client is going to mess up that thread!).