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Canonical probably does care less than in their desktop golden years, now they are perhaps focusing on the server os market (cloud). The distribution model has

by effie 7y ago

Canonical probably does care less than in their desktop golden years, now they are perhaps focusing on the server os market (cloud). The distribution model has the advantage of single click install. Great for basic users, but you run outdated software, sometimes with well known security holes. For power users who can take some work in maintaining their system, it seems to me that your way - keeping up with the latest version of all software - gives you better security.

mort96 7y ago
What do you mean? Arch works the same way as Ubuntu; there's a package manager, you use it to install software from the system repositories. `apt-get install vlc` is no easier or more user friendly than `pacman -S vlc`. I imagine gnome-software even works it does in Ubuntu, though I haven't tried using it. The only difference is that Arch updates their repos' packages as soon as a new version is available upstream (after some testing of course), while Ubuntu doesn't.
- effie 7y ago
  I meant the LTS model such as Ubuntu 18.04 gives you old version software with the possibility of worse functionality and more security holes. Arch may be more up-to-date than Ubuntu, but it isn't in the same category; it is not LTS, and it is not as widespread.
  - mort96 7y ago
    I was mostly responding to the part about how "The distribution model has the advantage of single click install". What's the difference in how "single click" installation can be between rolling and LTS?
    - effie 7y ago
      The point is classic distributions which support their product for a long time (Debian, Ubuntu,RHEL,Centos) are easier to use for basic users you can meet on street. With Arch or Gentoo, you are right that there is a package manager which makes installation of software easier, but the system is not easy to use for BFUs. When problems with installation/upgrades arise (which is more likely for Arch/Gentoo), you are expected to spend some time becoming proficient GNU/Linux user who resolves things in command line.
      - Dylan16807 7y ago
        Citation needed on the number of problems, assuming the classic system is actually being updated from release to release so it can continue to receive critical updates.

by effie 7y ago

mort96 7y ago

What do you mean? Arch works the same way as Ubuntu; there's a package manager, you use it to install software from the system repositories. `apt-get install vlc` is no easier or more user friendly than `pacman -S vlc`. I imagine gnome-software even works it does in Ubuntu, though I haven't tried using it. The only difference is that Arch updates their repos' packages as soon as a new version is available upstream (after some testing of course), while Ubuntu doesn't.

effie 7y ago
I meant the LTS model such as Ubuntu 18.04 gives you old version software with the possibility of worse functionality and more security holes. Arch may be more up-to-date than Ubuntu, but it isn't in the same category; it is not LTS, and it is not as widespread.
- mort96 7y ago
  I was mostly responding to the part about how "The distribution model has the advantage of single click install". What's the difference in how "single click" installation can be between rolling and LTS?
  - effie 7y ago
    The point is classic distributions which support their product for a long time (Debian, Ubuntu,RHEL,Centos) are easier to use for basic users you can meet on street. With Arch or Gentoo, you are right that there is a package manager which makes installation of software easier, but the system is not easy to use for BFUs. When problems with installation/upgrades arise (which is more likely for Arch/Gentoo), you are expected to spend some time becoming proficient GNU/Linux user who resolves things in command line.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      Citation needed on the number of problems, assuming the classic system is actually being updated from release to release so it can continue to receive critical updates.