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Statistical disparities aren't evidence of racism. And let's not pretend we haven't been talking about a supposed epidemic of white cops shooting innocent blac

Statistical disparities aren't evidence of racism. And let's not pretend we haven't been talking about a supposed epidemic of white cops shooting innocent black people for no reason for years and years now.

colanderman 7y ago
I don't understand the point of this comment. It does not bolster your comment I replied to, nor does it argue against my own. Are you starting a new, different argument, and now claiming that systemic racism doesn't exist, and that large bodies of research about it are unfounded, and supporting your claim with a single pithy statement about statistics? If so, sorry, I don't feel like being dragged into an off-topic argument about whether the concept of systemic racism is valid.
- alfromspace 7y ago
  Absolutely I am. The "bodies of research" about it do little more than point out things like prison population statistics and sentencing disparities that have almost nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with crime rates and priors. I equally don't feel like being dragged into pseudo-scientific political formulations that cast unequal distributions of resources and outcomes in life as forms of systemic discrimination.
  - tzakrajs 7y ago
    @dang This is flame bait.
    - alfromspace 7y ago
      Wow, just wow. Did you really just say that? Can you just not. I can't even.
- imtringued 7y ago
  If there is systemic racism then it would exist through the approval of laws that disproportionately affect minorities, not through the actions of individuals who are merely guided by the system. Because the solutions are obvious but unacceptable (even to those who are discriminated against) I don't think we will make any progress on this front.
justforyou 7y ago
>> And let's not pretend we haven't been talking about a supposed epidemic of white cops shooting innocent black people for no reason for years and years now Double negatives and sarcastoc political signaling of a POV that ignores statistics in the same statement? A successful broadcast of talking points and your agenda, but not really participation in a discussion.
- alfromspace 7y ago
  What statistics am I ignoring? I'm talking about the ones from the OP's post.

colanderman 7y ago

I don't understand the point of this comment. It does not bolster your comment I replied to, nor does it argue against my own. Are you starting a new, different argument, and now claiming that systemic racism doesn't exist, and that large bodies of research about it are unfounded, and supporting your claim with a single pithy statement about statistics? If so, sorry, I don't feel like being dragged into an off-topic argument about whether the concept of systemic racism is valid.

alfromspace 7y ago
Absolutely I am. The "bodies of research" about it do little more than point out things like prison population statistics and sentencing disparities that have almost nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with crime rates and priors. I equally don't feel like being dragged into pseudo-scientific political formulations that cast unequal distributions of resources and outcomes in life as forms of systemic discrimination.
- tzakrajs 7y ago
  @dang This is flame bait.
  - alfromspace 7y ago
    Wow, just wow. Did you really just say that? Can you just not. I can't even.
imtringued 7y ago
If there is systemic racism then it would exist through the approval of laws that disproportionately affect minorities, not through the actions of individuals who are merely guided by the system. Because the solutions are obvious but unacceptable (even to those who are discriminated against) I don't think we will make any progress on this front.

justforyou 7y ago

>> And let's not pretend we haven't been talking about a supposed epidemic of white cops shooting innocent black people for no reason for years and years now Double negatives and sarcastoc political signaling of a POV that ignores statistics in the same statement? A successful broadcast of talking points and your agenda, but not really participation in a discussion.

alfromspace 7y ago
What statistics am I ignoring? I'm talking about the ones from the OP's post.