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Too late. I have left Dropbox because of their stance on Linux filesystems, price bump with unnecessary features, and the continuous badgering to upgrade to Dro

Too late. I have left Dropbox because of their stance on Linux filesystems, price bump with unnecessary features, and the continuous badgering to upgrade to Dropbox business. It's great change though for those who are still on Dropbox. Their sync is top-notch.

duiker101 7y ago
What did you move to? I like Dropbox I just find it crazy that they (or no other company AFAIK) allows me to sync folders on my SD-card on my Android phone.
- jumbopapa 7y ago
  I would recommend looking into Nextcloud.
  - fock 7y ago
    though nextcloud definitely is a lot more than: "a folder to sync your files". but hey, apparently even VC in search of growth sometimes notices that their path is not the best.
  - duiker101 7y ago
    I did, I found it too clunky for my taste unfortunately
  - pizza234 7y ago
    I used Nextcloud/Owncloud in the past, but it's a mediocre product from an engineering perspective. I've found several bugs, the most ridiculous of which was to get a conflict on a file... while using only one client.
- danieldk 7y ago
  Resilio Sync for file sync, with a local NAS and a Hetzner VPN as read-only encrypted peers. SmugMug for sharing photos with family.
- tdurden 7y ago
  Resilio Sync [1] 1. https://www.resilio.com/individuals-sync/ https://www.resilio.com/individuals-sync/
- pritambaral 7y ago
  Not parent, but I'm looking into Syncthing (https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing & https://syncthing.net https://syncthing.net) and they document the issue and known workarounds to sharing from external SD-cards on Android: https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing-android/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing-android/wiki/Frequent...
  - lscotte 7y ago
    syncthing is a great choice, I've been happily using it for 2 or 3 years across Linux, Android, and Windows. I've never had to do anything special to use an SD card on Android.
    - pritambaral 7y ago
      > I've never had to do anything special to use an SD card on Android. It appears newer versions of Android do not provide a way for apps to access _external_ storage using ordinary POSIX APIs. SD cards can be used to back and provide "internal storage" on Android, and I don't think that is a problem (yet).
- opencl 7y ago
  Google basically made it impossible for file syncing software to work on SD cards in modern versions of Android (IIRC since Marshmallow or maybe Nougat) unless you use the 'SD as internal storage' option which many manufacturers have disabled entirely.
jcfrei 7y ago
> Their sync is top-notch. Which is exactly what prevented me from switching even though I run Linux. I've tried other file synchronization products and the speed was always significantly lower.
- deleted 7y ago
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- josteink 7y ago
  Today I synced 29000 files (44gb) from home to work with Nextcloud in less than 30 minutes. I think that’s not only more than acceptable, but at least 10x the performance I’d get from Dropbox.
SomeHacker44 7y ago
Yep. I removed them from my life after the 3 device limit and will.nit fo back. I will give a few bucks to Apple, Google and Microsoft for their file services for a while as I decide which one I like best.
anxrn 7y ago
I'm also a Dropbox on Linux user, are there other cloud storage services with better Linux client support? I was considering Google Drive but it doesn't seem to support Linux at all.
- wh313 7y ago
  GVFS (https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/gvfs/backends https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/gvfs/backends) now provides a package that lets you log in to your Google Drive account and access it from Nautilus, but you have to be on GNOME for it.
  - xiaomai 7y ago
    This is very cool and I use it from time to time, but it's not actually keeping anything synced afaik (it's equivalent to the web ui, but very nicely integrated in gnome).
  - Arnavion 7y ago
    And KDE has kio-gdrive for the same thing with Dolphin.
- akvadrako 7y ago
  MEGA, Seafile, NextCloud, pcloud
- Barrin92 7y ago
  I'm using Google drive with insync which is really good but not free. https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse is also a good alternative if you're happy with mounting your google drive folder. Gnome now also has pretty well working support for this built in.
  - bad_user 7y ago
    Many people recommend Insync and while it may be good enough for people stuck with Google Drive on Linux, it doesn't match Dropbox's sync. In my experience with Insync it crashes a lot and it's very slow compared with Dropbox. And of course they have GDrive's limitations, for example the inability to do block-level sync. Recommending third party solutions is fine, but can you manage a 300 GB archive of files with them? And can you trust those solutions to not corrupt your data? I know I wouldn't because I have a hard time trusting the official clients of GDrive or OneDrive after noticing them actually corrupting my data, so no thanks.
fluidcruft 7y ago
Same. Inertia kept me with Dropbox all these years. It was easier to pay them than to figure out how to operate the alternatives. I'm not going to get those hours I spent migrating back--it's sunk cost now.
programmer_dude 7y ago
> Their sync is top-notch. Not really, occasional merge conflicts are par for the course with Dropbox. Never seen one after switching to Google drive with Insync. Dropbox is very inflexible, for example doesn't even let you choose your own folder name, doesn't work well when syncing across case-sensitive (Linux) and case-insensitive (Windows) file systems. It was a sucky experience overall. I am relieved I don't have to use it at work anymore.
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  https://forums.insynchq.com/t/no-warning-when-file-conflicts-arise-danger/12559 https://forums.insynchq.com/t/no-warning-when-file-conflicts... ? Seems very dangerous for keeping data safe. And for what it's worth I've heard that google drive by itself often does the same thing.

duiker101 7y ago

What did you move to? I like Dropbox I just find it crazy that they (or no other company AFAIK) allows me to sync folders on my SD-card on my Android phone.

jumbopapa 7y ago
I would recommend looking into Nextcloud.
- fock 7y ago
  though nextcloud definitely is a lot more than: "a folder to sync your files". but hey, apparently even VC in search of growth sometimes notices that their path is not the best.
- duiker101 7y ago
  I did, I found it too clunky for my taste unfortunately
- pizza234 7y ago
  I used Nextcloud/Owncloud in the past, but it's a mediocre product from an engineering perspective. I've found several bugs, the most ridiculous of which was to get a conflict on a file... while using only one client.
danieldk 7y ago
Resilio Sync for file sync, with a local NAS and a Hetzner VPN as read-only encrypted peers. SmugMug for sharing photos with family.
tdurden 7y ago
Resilio Sync [1] 1. https://www.resilio.com/individuals-sync/ https://www.resilio.com/individuals-sync/
pritambaral 7y ago
Not parent, but I'm looking into Syncthing (https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing & https://syncthing.net https://syncthing.net) and they document the issue and known workarounds to sharing from external SD-cards on Android: https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing-android/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing-android/wiki/Frequent...
- lscotte 7y ago
  syncthing is a great choice, I've been happily using it for 2 or 3 years across Linux, Android, and Windows. I've never had to do anything special to use an SD card on Android.
  - pritambaral 7y ago
    > I've never had to do anything special to use an SD card on Android. It appears newer versions of Android do not provide a way for apps to access _external_ storage using ordinary POSIX APIs. SD cards can be used to back and provide "internal storage" on Android, and I don't think that is a problem (yet).
opencl 7y ago
Google basically made it impossible for file syncing software to work on SD cards in modern versions of Android (IIRC since Marshmallow or maybe Nougat) unless you use the 'SD as internal storage' option which many manufacturers have disabled entirely.

jcfrei 7y ago

> Their sync is top-notch. Which is exactly what prevented me from switching even though I run Linux. I've tried other file synchronization products and the speed was always significantly lower.

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josteink 7y ago
Today I synced 29000 files (44gb) from home to work with Nextcloud in less than 30 minutes. I think that’s not only more than acceptable, but at least 10x the performance I’d get from Dropbox.

SomeHacker44 7y ago

Yep. I removed them from my life after the 3 device limit and will.nit fo back. I will give a few bucks to Apple, Google and Microsoft for their file services for a while as I decide which one I like best.

anxrn 7y ago

I'm also a Dropbox on Linux user, are there other cloud storage services with better Linux client support? I was considering Google Drive but it doesn't seem to support Linux at all.

wh313 7y ago
GVFS (https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/gvfs/backends https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/gvfs/backends) now provides a package that lets you log in to your Google Drive account and access it from Nautilus, but you have to be on GNOME for it.
- xiaomai 7y ago
  This is very cool and I use it from time to time, but it's not actually keeping anything synced afaik (it's equivalent to the web ui, but very nicely integrated in gnome).
- Arnavion 7y ago
  And KDE has kio-gdrive for the same thing with Dolphin.
akvadrako 7y ago
MEGA, Seafile, NextCloud, pcloud
Barrin92 7y ago
I'm using Google drive with insync which is really good but not free. https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse is also a good alternative if you're happy with mounting your google drive folder. Gnome now also has pretty well working support for this built in.
- bad_user 7y ago
  Many people recommend Insync and while it may be good enough for people stuck with Google Drive on Linux, it doesn't match Dropbox's sync. In my experience with Insync it crashes a lot and it's very slow compared with Dropbox. And of course they have GDrive's limitations, for example the inability to do block-level sync. Recommending third party solutions is fine, but can you manage a 300 GB archive of files with them? And can you trust those solutions to not corrupt your data? I know I wouldn't because I have a hard time trusting the official clients of GDrive or OneDrive after noticing them actually corrupting my data, so no thanks.

fluidcruft 7y ago

Same. Inertia kept me with Dropbox all these years. It was easier to pay them than to figure out how to operate the alternatives. I'm not going to get those hours I spent migrating back--it's sunk cost now.

programmer_dude 7y ago

> Their sync is top-notch. Not really, occasional merge conflicts are par for the course with Dropbox. Never seen one after switching to Google drive with Insync. Dropbox is very inflexible, for example doesn't even let you choose your own folder name, doesn't work well when syncing across case-sensitive (Linux) and case-insensitive (Windows) file systems. It was a sucky experience overall. I am relieved I don't have to use it at work anymore.

Dylan16807 7y ago
https://forums.insynchq.com/t/no-warning-when-file-conflicts-arise-danger/12559 https://forums.insynchq.com/t/no-warning-when-file-conflicts... ? Seems very dangerous for keeping data safe. And for what it's worth I've heard that google drive by itself often does the same thing.